You're appealing to my motivations instead of addressing what I'm saying. You're also misreading what I think, but it wouldn't matter if you were spot on, because this isn't about if I think something is black, white, or shades of grey.
it's not about what people like you narrowass whiteboy
Yeah, okay, so now you're not even pretending to address my argument. Gotcha.
Bebop, what is this? Do you not understand that Whitepimp007 represents peoples' rights to say whatever it is they please?
Whitepimp, overturn this report as Bebop clearly has no idea what he is doing. Violations for saying things other people do not like? Pathetic! Who let Bebop become a moderator?
Yet I believe all of us can agree that creating a fake story of someone being a rapist and a pedophile has far worse connotations than that of a thief.
Jamal beat Pranay's mom and then rap'ed her. He did it on two occasions. One time he was even arrested for it. He spent almost a week in jail, but she got too scared to testify in court, so Jamal didn't end up serving any more time. He's vicious and dangerous.
There you go, fam. If you think that's against the rules, go report me.
really though if i could report you i would
even though it's obvious you're joking (and obvious the other accusations were not), this isn't how a mod should behave which is the main reason i'd report you
mods are held to a higher standard because they're supposed to represent the standard, you're representing something lowly
I'm representing Ayd and his/her right to say something that Jamal doesn't like. I'm also representing you and your right to do the same. I get that you don't think he should be able to exercise his right in that manner, but he does.
Whether you like it or not, Whitepimp, this site has rules. No, not everyone can just say whatever it is they want and there is a very good reason for that -- we don't want to drive people off of this already dying website. There is a set of rules in place to protect the community and promote fun and because of this, we have to abide by the rules and we cannot say whatever we please.
I am 18 currently yet turning 19 this year -- everyone knows this. Jimbei was acting as though her age made her superior to me so I simply had to stop her from believing that.
I'm sorry, I thought you were the 16 year old boy who pretends to be a pregnant Iranian woman? Am I mixing you up with someone else?
If I were to go into the main lobby for this next week and spread news of you being a pedophile and a rapist and creating a story to all of your friends and making it sound believable, would you be offended? Maybe, maybe not. Could this hurt your image and your reputation? Certainly. If you asked me to stop, then it would be considered slander and harassment. If you did not ask me to stop or seem to care at all, it would only be slander yet not punishable under the harassment violation.
Multiple slanderous accusations were made against me, it could have hurt my image, and I asked for the user in question to stop multiple times -- they did not. This is slander and this is harassment by the very definition this website uses to enforce their rules.
How do you define slander and harassment, Whitepimp?
i don't want the precedent to be that you're allowed to commit defamation
And yet, that's the way this works. You and everyone else get to say things even if other people don't like them. The marker for this isn't about whether it is true or whether someone else is subjectively offended.
you seriously think this is about being offended
god you're one of those extreme black and white people these days who thinks everything is about offense and feelings and laws shouldn't apply to anything outside of theft and murder
yes that's an accusation that you're an ideological stalwart but fortunately it's not a crime
Yet I believe all of us can agree that creating a fake story of someone being a rapist and a pedophile has far worse connotations than that of a thief.
Jamal beat Pranay's mom and then rap'ed her. He did it on two occasions. One time he was even arrested for it. He spent almost a week in jail, but she got too scared to testify in court, so Jamal didn't end up serving any more time. He's vicious and dangerous.
There you go, fam. If you think that's against the rules, go report me.
really though if i could report you i would
even though it's obvious you're joking (and obvious the other accusations were not), this isn't how a mod should behave which is the main reason i'd report you
mods are held to a higher standard because they're supposed to represent the standard, you're representing something lowly
I'm representing Ayd and his/her right to say something that Jamal doesn't like. I'm also representing you and your right to do the same. I get that you don't think he should be able to exercise his right in that manner, but he does.
Yet I believe all of us can agree that creating a fake story of someone being a rapist and a pedophile has far worse connotations than that of a thief.
Jamal beat Pranay's mom and then rap'ed her. He did it on two occasions. One time he was even arrested for it. He spent almost a week in jail, but she got too scared to testify in court, so Jamal didn't end up serving any more time. He's vicious and dangerous.
There you go, fam. If you think that's against the rules, go report me.
really though if i could report you i would
even though it's obvious you're joking (and obvious the other accusations were not), this isn't how a mod should behave which is the main reason i'd report you
mods are held to a higher standard because they're supposed to represent the standard, you're representing something lowly
I am 18 currently yet turning 19 this year -- everyone knows this. Jimbei was acting as though her age made her superior to me so I simply had to stop her from believing that.
I'm sorry, I thought you were the 16 year old boy who pretends to be a pregnant Iranian woman? Am I mixing you up with someone else?
Yet I believe all of us can agree that creating a fake story of someone being a rapist and a pedophile has far worse connotations than that of a thief.
Jamal beat Pranay's mom and then rap'ed her. He did it on two occasions. One time he was even arrested for it. He spent almost a week in jail, but she got too scared to testify in court, so Jamal didn't end up serving any more time. He's vicious and dangerous.
There you go, fam. If you think that's against the rules, go report me.
Whitepimp, it is against the rules which you seem to not understand.
You not enforcing the rules does not mean that a rule does not exist about slander. I urge you to check out the rule page and if you do not understand certain words such as "slander", then ask a friend to help clarify for you.
Truthfully? I think it is a nice gesture that we are allowing incapable users like Whitepimp to act as moderators, yet if they cannot prove they are are able to be capable, then they should no longer be moderators.
i don't want the precedent to be that you're allowed to commit defamation
And yet, that's the way this works. You and everyone else get to say things even if other people don't like them. The marker for this isn't about whether it is true or whether someone else is subjectively offended.
Jamal, I really dont understand why you keep going on with this because if you really want me to get proof all I have to do is ask the person you sent a pic to last year. Keep trying to say it's false but most of the people know about it anyway
You mean the photograph of a from the Internet I linked a user to who was the same age as me, 17?
That does not make me a rapist nor a pedophile like you claimed and insisted.
As this happened off-site, it held no ground here, yet when I was speaking to the moderators of this lobby, they felt as though I was being rude and that is why I was banned from the lobby -- not the incident itself. Bebop stated I would have been fine if I did not have an attitude.
[4/30/2017 12:20:41 PM] TOTALLY JIMBEI: I am 19 years old. Are you implying you are older than 19? [4/30/2017 12:20:46 PM] Jamal Marley: I am. [4/30/2017 12:20:51 PM] TOTALLY JIMBEI: Then why lie on your skype. [4/30/2017 12:21:13 PM] Jamal Marley: As Bebop sent many people to add me on Skype to DDoS me and I had to throw them off. [4/30/2017 12:21:24 PM] Jamal Marley: Protecting myself and I instructed other vulnerable users to do the same. [4/30/2017 12:22:02 PM] Jamal Marley: It's a great strategy, people. [4/30/2017 12:22:15 PM] TOTALLY JIMBEI: Then why not change it back? It is also a tool commonly used to catfish. [4/30/2017 12:22:29 PM] Jamal Marley: Because I simply do not use Skype enough to require my information to be accurate.
I am 18 currently yet turning 19 this year -- everyone knows this. Jimbei was acting as though her age made her superior to me so I simply had to stop her from believing that.
Yet I believe all of us can agree that creating a fake story of someone being a rapist and a pedophile has far worse connotations than that of a thief.
Jamal beat Pranay's mom and then rap'ed her. He did it on two occasions. One time he was even arrested for it. He spent almost a week in jail, but she got too scared to testify in court, so Jamal didn't end up serving any more time. He's vicious and dangerous.
There you go, fam. If you think that's against the rules, go report me.
use half your damn brain and you'll be able to figure it out, you know the world isn't black and white and if you don't then step down you're not fit to moderate
I'm just using this to get to the root of your claim. You're saying that there's a difference between being called names and being accused of a crime. Do you think I should get a vio for calling you a thief? For calling you a pedophile? For calling you a murder? For calling you anything? Where do you draw the line and why? You wouldn't vio me for accusing you of one crime. Why would you vio me for accusing you of another crime? I'm pointing out that your point of view has conflicts and asking how you resolve them.
let's put it this way, using common language with common sense in a common context you understand if you're being rational
"you're stupid" is not even remotely an accusation of any crime
"you're killing me" is not an accusation of murder "stop stealing my reports" is not an accusation of theft
"i know you killed x, you're a murderer and i'm reporting you to the authorities" is an accusation of murder "you stole emjack from (copyrighted source)" is an accusation of theft "you're a pedophile and i have photographic evidence" is an accusation of pedophilia
the difference is that these are SERIOUS accusations of SERIOUS crimes punishable by LAW, and unless proven in a court of law they are defamation
definitions if you need them DEFAMATION the action of damaging the good reputation of someone; slander or libel. SLANDER make false and damaging statements about (someone) LIBEL a published false statement that is damaging to a person's reputation; a written defamation
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Jamal, I really dont understand why you keep going on with this because if you really want me to get proof all I have to do is ask the person you sent a pic to last year. Keep trying to say it's false but most of the people know about it anyway
You mean the photograph of a from the Internet I linked a user to who was the same age as me, 17?
That does not make me a rapist nor a pedophile like you claimed and insisted.
As this happened off-site, it held no ground here, yet when I was speaking to the moderators of this lobby, they felt as though I was being rude and that is why I was banned from the lobby -- not the incident itself. Bebop stated I would have been fine if I did not have an attitude.
[4/30/2017 12:20:41 PM] TOTALLY JIMBEI: I am 19 years old. Are you implying you are older than 19? [4/30/2017 12:20:46 PM] Jamal Marley: I am. [4/30/2017 12:20:51 PM] TOTALLY JIMBEI: Then why lie on your skype. [4/30/2017 12:21:13 PM] Jamal Marley: As Bebop sent many people to add me on Skype to DDoS me and I had to throw them off. [4/30/2017 12:21:24 PM] Jamal Marley: Protecting myself and I instructed other vulnerable users to do the same. [4/30/2017 12:22:02 PM] Jamal Marley: It's a great strategy, people. [4/30/2017 12:22:15 PM] TOTALLY JIMBEI: Then why not change it back? It is also a tool commonly used to catfish. [4/30/2017 12:22:29 PM] Jamal Marley: Because I simply do not use Skype enough to require my information to be accurate.
Creating several slanderous claims despite being told to stop several times is grounds for harassment. If you wish to have the new administrators clarify the harassment rule so you can understand in the future, then I urge you to go speak to them when they are appointed. For now, however, the report I filed was clearly worthy of a harassment violation.
I like how you ignored my questions. At any rate, I'm a judicial activist.