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over 7 years

Sign this petition if you want Golbolco to become site admin and demod WhitePimp007. You can make up a fake excuse if you want to.

over 7 years

cub says


Whitepimp007 says


cub says


Whitepimp007 says

Sure. And then I would novio it. If I call you a coward, and someone else reads that and thinks you're a coward, it's slander. And I'm going to novio it.


cowardice isn't illegal are you purposefully dense


Replace it with whatever word you please, nothing else in the paragraph changes.


the "it's slander" changes if it's ACTUALLY slander

you are purposefully dense


Slander doesn't have anything to do with an act being legal or illegal. Slander is an untruth that harms a person's reputation. Saying you wet your bed is slander. Calling you a coward is slander. Calling you a pedophile is slander. Calling you a murderer is slander. And it doesn't matter what name you put in here, I'm going to novio every one of them.
over 7 years

Ayd says

honestly cub two things

1) why do you care that i care about jamal making things up

2) it's not my fault people won't send you pics. So you think it's alright for some one over the age t send someone under the age a pic? Okay cub nice one buddy. and you should be telling that to your buddy since he's the one who always brings it up


1) it's overlapping the discussion im having so that's why

2) if by over the age you mean a few years then yes, it's alright. what next, a 17 year old has his or her 18th birthday and is suddenly a pedophile because they were dating another 17 year old? you're absolutely ridiculous. victims of pedophilia hate you and your disgusting virtuejacking of a serious traumatic experience because full grown people who understand the situation have a victim complex about seeing a picture on the internet. you're not a child, stop acting like one
over 7 years
Whitepimp007, are you unable to produce your own definition of harassment? It is fine. I will yet again bring up EpicMafia's definition as you do not have your own.

"Making repeated/severe personal attacks toward or slandering another Epicmafia user when the user has shown the harasser that he is offended. If filing on behalf of another user, one must show the consent of the harassed person."

So once again, by this definition, the incident that occurred was harassment.

1) Repeated slanderous attacks were made against me (rapist, pedophile)
2) I asked the user in question to stop several times, showing that I was offended by the slanderous accusations

And by your definition of slander, it still falls under slander as someone was lying about me and demonstrable harm was being caused.
over 7 years

Whitepimp007 says


cub says


Whitepimp007 says


cub says


Whitepimp007 says

Slander is someone lying about another person in a manner where demonstrable harm is being caused.


so let's say you have the slanderer. if at least one other person is convinced by the slanderer, does that constitute demonstrable harm to the victim's reputation? if so, could we say that slander resulting in rumors is against the rules?

so we apply the rules at least remotely consistently

also, this could be reported with both a screenshot of the libelous statement and one from someone else being convinced by it


Sure. And then I would novio it. If I call you a coward, and someone else reads that and thinks you're a coward, it's slander. And I'm going to novio it.


cowardice isn't illegal are you purposefully dense


Replace it with whatever word you please, nothing else in the paragraph changes.


the "it's slander" changes if it's ACTUALLY slander

you are purposefully dense
deletedover 7 years

cub says

honestly ayd two things

1) why do you care about jamal making things up

2) dlck pics are not r*pe by any metric, and f*ck you for trivializing it

3) dlck pics between people up to like 5-10 years apart isn't pedophilia. oh no they're one year apart on the arbitrary age we just made up, clearly that 18 year old knew everything and that 17 year old was a toddler. give me a break and stop trivializing horrific crimes with your petty internet rivalry


honestly cub two things

1) why do you care that i care about jamal making things up

2) it's not my fault people won't send you pics. So you think it's alright for some one over the age tp send someone under the age a d**k pic? Okay cub nice one buddy. and you should be telling that to your buddy since he's the one who always brings it up
over 7 years

cub says

clearly that 18 year old knew everything and that 17 year old was a toddler. give me a break and stop trivializing horrific crimes with your petty internet rivalry


To clarify, the user and I are the same age and this happened last year when we were both 17 years of age.

Bebop handled the situation and stated that if I did not give him attitude, I would not have been banned as the incident was not what he initially though.
over 7 years

cub says


Whitepimp007 says


cub says


Whitepimp007 says

Slander is someone lying about another person in a manner where demonstrable harm is being caused.


so let's say you have the slanderer. if at least one other person is convinced by the slanderer, does that constitute demonstrable harm to the victim's reputation? if so, could we say that slander resulting in rumors is against the rules?

so we apply the rules at least remotely consistently

also, this could be reported with both a screenshot of the libelous statement and one from someone else being convinced by it


Sure. And then I would novio it. If I call you a coward, and someone else reads that and thinks you're a coward, it's slander. And I'm going to novio it.


cowardice isn't illegal are you purposefully dense


Replace it with whatever word you please, nothing else in the paragraph changes.
over 7 years

Whitepimp007 says


cub says


Whitepimp007 says

Slander is someone lying about another person in a manner where demonstrable harm is being caused.


so let's say you have the slanderer. if at least one other person is convinced by the slanderer, does that constitute demonstrable harm to the victim's reputation? if so, could we say that slander resulting in rumors is against the rules?

so we apply the rules at least remotely consistently

also, this could be reported with both a screenshot of the libelous statement and one from someone else being convinced by it


Sure. And then I would novio it. If I call you a coward, and someone else reads that and thinks you're a coward, it's slander. And I'm going to novio it.


cowardice isn't illegal are you purposefully dense
over 7 years
calling someone a coward and insinuating they molest children and harass women are a couple degrees apart there. We really going to equivocate this?
over 7 years
honestly ayd two things

1) why do you care about jamal making things up

2) dlck pics are not r*pe by any metric, and f*ck you for trivializing it

3) dlck pics between people up to like 5-10 years apart isn't pedophilia. oh no they're one year apart on the arbitrary age we just made up, clearly that 18 year old knew everything and that 17 year old was a toddler. give me a break and stop trivializing horrific crimes with your petty internet rivalry
over 7 years
Whitepimp007, why are you ignoring me? Define harassment for us, your definition.
over 7 years

Ayd says


JamalMarley says


Ayd says

I'm not even going to read that because you're probably just lying like you admitted to doing so before.


It is a shame you resort to this as you know you cannot argue the facts of the case. Yet as I stated earlier, continue to through feces at the wall hoping some of it will stick -- maybe some of it will.


It's a shame you had to lie to win an argument, now you're trying to do the same thing again. It's terrible you have to resort to lying...


What am I lying about, however?

The few claims I have made have been backed up (i.e. what slander is defined as on EpicMafia), the bulk of this argument has been trying to get Whitepimp007 to define harassment and slander for us as he does not seem to agree with EpicMafia's version of it.

Adding your current behaviour used as a defense mechanism on top of your false accusations of and pedophilia, you seem to be making yourself look worse. If you wish to argue the facts, then do so, yet do not act as a child while we are discussing serious matters.
over 7 years

cub says


Whitepimp007 says

Slander is someone lying about another person in a manner where demonstrable harm is being caused.


so let's say you have the slanderer. if at least one other person is convinced by the slanderer, does that constitute demonstrable harm to the victim's reputation? if so, could we say that slander resulting in rumors is against the rules?

so we apply the rules at least remotely consistently

also, this could be reported with both a screenshot of the libelous statement and one from someone else being convinced by it


Sure. And then I would novio it. If I call you a coward, and someone else reads that and thinks you're a coward, it's slander. And I'm going to novio it.
deletedover 7 years

JamalMarley says


Ayd says

I'm not even going to read that because you're probably just lying like you admitted to doing so before.


It is a shame you resort to this as you know you cannot argue the facts of the case. Yet as I stated earlier, continue to through feces at the wall hoping some of it will stick -- maybe some of it will.


It's a shame you had to lie to win an argument, now you're trying to do the same thing again. It's terrible you have to resort to lying...
over 7 years

Ayd says

I'm not even going to read that because you're probably just lying like you admitted to doing so before.


It is a shame you resort to this as you know you cannot argue the facts of the case. Yet as I stated earlier, continue to through feces at the wall hoping some of it will stick -- maybe some of it will.
over 7 years
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over 7 years
trim your quotes fella
deletedover 7 years

JamalMarley says


Ayd says


JamalMarley says


Ayd says


JamalMarley says


Ayd says


blood4bloodgod says

Because of Ayd i honestly believed Jamal was both gay and a pedophile that harasses women. I naturally assume those facts about most users anyways, but Ayd really sold it.


That's funny because in chat you said that's not true and how jamal is our savior etc and how you worship him?? Did you hit your head buddy?


That is precisely what slander does. If friends or people who think fondly of you hear a bogus story of something as terrible as or pedophilia, then of course they will question you and of course they could turn their back on you.

Slander is making false and damaging statements about someone. This is what happened and these are the effects.


So you didn't claim to be older than 19 in those skype logs? and you didn't send your to someone underage?


I claimed to be older than Jimbei in an argument with Jimbei as she attempted to hold her age above mine to say 'i am better than you' -- I stated I was older than her. I am 18, as stated earlier, turning 19 later this year.

I sent a photograph of a found on the Internet to a friend the same age as me. This does not make me a rapist nor a pedophile, yet this is what you called me multiple times.


What this now makes you is a LIAR TO WIN AN ARGUMENT, Everything you have now just discredited everything you've said by admitting to this.

Thanks


I have not been making claims that are unable to be backed up, I have been asking Whitepimp007 how the incident does not fall under harassment, so no, it does not discredit anything.

In addition, telling Jimbei I was older than her to stop her from being petty in an argument did not help me win the argument just stopped her from acting petty and as if I were a child.


I'm not even going to read that because you're probably just lying like you admitted to doing so before.
over 7 years

Whitepimp007 says

Slander is someone lying about another person in a manner where demonstrable harm is being caused.


so let's say you have the slanderer. if at least one other person is convinced by the slanderer, does that constitute demonstrable harm to the victim's reputation? if so, could we say that slander resulting in rumors is against the rules?

so we apply the rules at least remotely consistently

also, this could be reported with both a screenshot of the libelous statement and one from someone else being convinced by it
over 7 years

Ayd says


JamalMarley says


Ayd says


JamalMarley says


Ayd says


blood4bloodgod says

Because of Ayd i honestly believed Jamal was both gay and a pedophile that harasses women. I naturally assume those facts about most users anyways, but Ayd really sold it.


That's funny because in chat you said that's not true and how jamal is our savior etc and how you worship him?? Did you hit your head buddy?


That is precisely what slander does. If friends or people who think fondly of you hear a bogus story of something as terrible as or pedophilia, then of course they will question you and of course they could turn their back on you.

Slander is making false and damaging statements about someone. This is what happened and these are the effects.


So you didn't claim to be older than 19 in those skype logs? and you didn't send your to someone underage?


I claimed to be older than Jimbei in an argument with Jimbei as she attempted to hold her age above mine to say 'i am better than you' -- I stated I was older than her. I am 18, as stated earlier, turning 19 later this year.

I sent a photograph of a found on the Internet to a friend the same age as me. This does not make me a rapist nor a pedophile, yet this is what you called me multiple times.


What this now makes you is a LIAR TO WIN AN ARGUMENT, Everything you have now just discredited everything you've said by admitting to this.

Thanks


I have not been making claims that are unable to be backed up, I have been asking Whitepimp007 how the incident does not fall under harassment. So no, it does not discredit anything. Yet excellent job, continue to try to through feces at the wall hoping some of it will stick.

In addition, telling Jimbei I was older than her to stop her from being petty in an argument did not help me win the argument just stopped her from acting petty and as if I were a child.
over 7 years

Whitepimp007 says

If you want someone to get in trouble for calling you a pedophile, feel free to appeal and hope another mod doesn't agree with me.


back in my day mods were consistent

they used a thing called precedents to handle reports fairly so whether or not you received repercussions for an incident was based on whether or not you broke the rules and not the feelieweelies of the mod assigned to it
over 7 years

Whitepimp007 says


cub says


Whitepimp007 says

If you think it is the job of moderators to enforce rules in a black and white manner, then I don't do my job. But it's funny because you spent so much time criticizing that mentality just a few posts ago.


it's funny because you read slander in black and white, and you enforce it based on that black and white interpretation

so that is what you do

i think it's your job to know what is and is not against the rules, not blanket assert that everything "mean" is free speech when defamation is both "mean" and actually very clearly against the rules and for good reason: it's illegal


It's not about reading slander as black and white. If you're a pedophile and get called a pedophile, I'm not going to apply a vio. If you're not a pedophile and get called a pedophile, I'm not going to apply a vio. If you want someone to get in trouble for calling you a pedophile, feel free to appeal and hope another mod doesn't agree with me.


Why is it that you are ignoring what I am saying and just focusing on cub now?

Respond to what I stated earlier and tell me how the incident does not fall under your definition of slander and harassment.
deletedover 7 years

JamalMarley says


Ayd says


JamalMarley says


Ayd says


blood4bloodgod says

Because of Ayd i honestly believed Jamal was both gay and a pedophile that harasses women. I naturally assume those facts about most users anyways, but Ayd really sold it.


That's funny because in chat you said that's not true and how jamal is our savior etc and how you worship him?? Did you hit your head buddy?


That is precisely what slander does. If friends or people who think fondly of you hear a bogus story of something as terrible as or pedophilia, then of course they will question you and of course they could turn their back on you.

Slander is making false and damaging statements about someone. This is what happened and these are the effects.


So you didn't claim to be older than 19 in those skype logs? and you didn't send your to someone underage?


I claimed to be older than Jimbei in an argument with Jimbei as she attempted to hold her age above mine to say 'i am better than you' -- I stated I was older than her. I am 18, as stated earlier, turning 19 later this year.

I sent a photograph of a found on the Internet to a friend the same age as me. This does not make me a rapist nor a pedophile, yet this is what you called me multiple times.


What this now makes you is a LIAR TO WIN AN ARGUMENT, Everything you have now just discredited everything you've said by admitting to this.

Thanks
over 7 years

cub says

jamal reminded me that you still never defined slander did you



Whitepimp007 says


cub says


Whitepimp007 says

You want to restrict someone's ability to refer to someone as a pedophile. I'd love to hear some justification for your beliefs.


SLANDER


Slander is someone lying about another person in a manner where demonstrable harm is being caused.

over 7 years

Ayd says


JamalMarley says


Ayd says


blood4bloodgod says

Because of Ayd i honestly believed Jamal was both gay and a pedophile that harasses women. I naturally assume those facts about most users anyways, but Ayd really sold it.


That's funny because in chat you said that's not true and how jamal is our savior etc and how you worship him?? Did you hit your head buddy?


That is precisely what slander does. If friends or people who think fondly of you hear a bogus story of something as terrible as or pedophilia, then of course they will question you and of course they could turn their back on you.

Slander is making false and damaging statements about someone. This is what happened and these are the effects.


So you didn't claim to be older than 19 in those skype logs? and you didn't send your to someone underage?


I claimed to be older than Jimbei in an argument with Jimbei as she attempted to hold her age above mine to say 'i am better than you' -- I stated I was older than her. I am 18, as stated earlier, turning 19 later this year.

I sent a photograph of a found on the Internet to a friend the same age as me. This does not make me a rapist nor a pedophile, yet this is what you called me multiple times.