Comp Lobby Change Proposals

Bumpersabout 12 years ago

Hello comp lobby. As some people are discussing, activity has gone down a bit, and yesterday the lobby was delisted from the front page temporarily. As a result of that, we have some new ideas for competitive and training lobby to help revitalize both lobbies in integration and play. It does look likely though that another lobby will replace this placement on the front page if things do not change. I ask that you please review this if you want things to remain as they are now.

If you would like to see the ideas and proposals for training lobby, please view this thread here.

https://epicmafia.com/topic/63210

For now I will hierarchy things that will be done, and those ideas which would be dependent on Lucid and the undertaking work for them.

Main Changes

1) Lobby rename to ‘Ranked’

Having the lobby name as competitive comes off as intimidating for newer players. Whilst competitions are not going anywhere in this lobby, we want to encourage regular play for those who do not want to influence running competitions.

2) Lower point requirement for entry lowered to 500.

Having an entry amount of 1500 is a very large asking score for someone new to the game. By that time they have either settled down in one lobby with no opinion on moving, or even trying out another lobby. I realize this might lead to more reports being done in comp, but I don’t think it’ll hugely influence the amount of reports that have to be done on average that we have now. Existing limits such as new accounts not being able to participate in current trophy rounds won’t be removed.

Future Changes Pending Feedback

1) Greater new range of achievements.

Not everyone wants to play EpicMafia for trophies, but one thing that I’ve learnt is that lots of people enjoy the stat tracking and trying to get achievements. I feel going into every game with the chance to have a reward or unlock would be great, and we can possibly encourage lobby specifics achievements too.

One example I’d like to see with achievements is a much greater range of unlocks. Let’s take the current hunter achievement which requires you to shoot the mafia in 3 way. This isn’t achievable for everyone, but we can make this achievement accessible for all in some way by having levels without downgrading existing criteria.

Here’s an example

*Level 1: Hit the mafia as Hunter

*Level 2: Hit the mafia 10 times as Hunter

*Level 3 (Ranked Exclusive): Hit the mafia in 3 way as Hunter.

Earning an achievement can gain a small emblem, completing the complete range of achievements can earn a badge.

2) Cycling ‘Assignments’ and challenges

Moving back to the topic of not everyone wanting to run for a trophy, or not having the time to do so, having mini competitions known as assignments could be a new, fun aspect that some players might want to participate in. Like happy hours, imagine having weekly challenges such as who can have the most wins as a particular role, or who can achieve the most cop guilty reports in a week. This can keep things fresh and make achieving more accessible.

3) More community consultation on setups and these new ideas

Having submitted achievements and assignments be as easy as submitting new roles for the game would be brilliant if possible. One problem comp has is autonomy, there’s too much interjection with many actions and not many ways for viewpoints to influence the site.

Concluding notes

We’re fully welcoming in embracing ideas for what might help this lobby thrive, so please rate or give your own for consideration. Thanks guys.

deleteddeletedabout 12 years ago
But those are the people who drive people away from joining competitive lobby in the first place!
EmmerrLouiseabout 12 years ago
Connor
training lobby player EmmerLouise
This is the adversarial, lobby v lobby kinda stuff I've been talking about - identifying users by the lobby they play in. And yet you pretend to advocate merging the lobbies, holding hands, everyone getting along and helping 'noobs'. I laugh at the hypocrisy of it all.
deleteddeletedabout 12 years ago
Training complain about noobs a lot tbh
deleteddeletedabout 12 years ago
Smorlicious
Connor
where do you achieve this understanding from smor? is it from training lobby player EmmerLouise?

who here has actually attested to refusing to play with noobs?
From my experience trying to play in competitive, I've witnessed several times, and no I cannot name the players, who complain about noobs in training at thats why they play in competitive lobby.

I've also seen many times on the training lobbys comment wall that many players feel competitive lobby is too hostile and hard for them to want to join. That's where I'm getting my assumptions from.
Those people are toxic and you shouldn't listen to them.
deleteddeletedabout 12 years ago
Cantankerous
I've witnessed several times, and no I cannot name the players, who complain about noobs in training at thats why they play in competitive lobby.
this doesn't happen.
Yeh it does.
deleteddeletedabout 12 years ago
Are you sure about that? People complain about the noobs even in training lobby.
deleteddeletedabout 12 years ago
I've witnessed several times, and no I cannot name the players, who complain about noobs in training at thats why they play in competitive lobby.
this doesn't happen.
deleteddeletedabout 12 years ago
Connor
where do you achieve this understanding from smor? is it from training lobby player EmmerLouise?

who here has actually attested to refusing to play with noobs?
From my experience trying to play in competitive, I've witnessed several times, and no I cannot name the players, who complain about noobs in training at thats why they play in competitive lobby.

I've also seen many times on the training lobbys comment wall that many players feel competitive lobby is too hostile and hard for them to want to join. That's where I'm getting my assumptions from.
animegayboy69about 12 years ago
Fluttershy
Just turn off competitions forever~~
Owenabout 12 years ago
animegayboy69
Retti
I will die by the sword of phillip wang if it meant I could do what is right.
how can a doormat wield a sword
deleteddeletedabout 12 years ago
Just turn off competitions forever~~
animegayboy69about 12 years ago
Retti
I will die by the sword of phillip wang if it meant I could do what is right.
how can a doormat wield a sword
1
Goodbarabout 12 years ago
Retti
I will die by the sword of phillip wang if it meant I could do what is right.
so noble so tsundere~
Clairabout 12 years ago
where do you achieve this understanding from smor? is it from training lobby player EmmerLouise?

who here has actually attested to refusing to play with noobs?
deleteddeletedabout 12 years agoedited
I will die by the sword of phillip wang if it meant I could do what is right.
deleteddeletedabout 12 years ago
Then we'll make it one round then. If it all goes to *** then there's no harm done.
deleteddeletedabout 12 years ago
Connor
Smorlicious please become informed on subjects before arguing about them. thanks
Connor I said "i bet you" not "I know this was how things were" I stand corrected.

But from my understanding comp players don't WANT to play with noobs, right? So why is it wrong that we leave the competition to experienced players? We could raise the admission level so it's harder for total noobs to join, but that newer players who have been playing for a while can still join?
deleteddeletedabout 12 years ago
It's almost like going against what lucid says and getting around it never ends badly Retti ;D
EmmerrLouiseabout 12 years ago
I think you'd need more than a week to trial a whole round - particularly as I imagine the rate at which points will accumulate will slow down.
animegayboy69about 12 years ago
"why would you disregard an opinion based on completely incorrect assumptions by an uninformed party"
deleteddeletedabout 12 years ago
Bumpers
Retti
Bumpers
There still seems to be a lot of pulling for a single lobby. I don't know if I need to make myself clear, again, but these are the options you have with the site. This is also the closest you'll get to a single lobby without anything lost.

Retti, can you calm down please, thanks. I've talked with Lucid, these are what he's fine with. There shouldn't be a proposal of anything that can influence lobbies that he's not fine with, there are things that have been proposed that he's not fine with.
He disagrees with a trial period?
He doesn't want to merge the lobbies and has been adamant about it for years. This idea is is the closest I've got in a proposal to a single lobby, and that's by by making it one lobby if someone wants to get more than 10K points for standard EM play. Anyone still playing in training then is the equivalent of someone playing in any other lobby.

That is the whole idea.
My proposal (influenced by connor's idea) is merely a trial period. All I ask is one week where competition would be disabled from competitive and allowed again in training. There would be no merging involved.
EmmerrLouiseabout 12 years agoedited
Connor
Smorlicious please become informed on subjects before arguing about them. thanks
Why would you utterly disregard someone's contribution to this thread when the OP invites players to offer their opinions? Here's the thing Connor - just because people disagree with you, doesn't mean you can be rude and dismissive.

And we wonder why only dozen or so players contribute to forum posts..
deleteddeletedabout 12 years agoedited
animegayboy69
you know what will really get the competition crackin'? a high barrier to entry
have you heard of my new cool personal epicmafia place called Gold Lobby? Only the elite get in where no games fill.
Bumpersabout 12 years ago
Retti
Bumpers
There still seems to be a lot of pulling for a single lobby. I don't know if I need to make myself clear, again, but these are the options you have with the site. This is also the closest you'll get to a single lobby without anything lost.

Retti, can you calm down please, thanks. I've talked with Lucid, these are what he's fine with. There shouldn't be a proposal of anything that can influence lobbies that he's not fine with, there are things that have been proposed that he's not fine with.
He disagrees with a trial period?
He doesn't want to merge the lobbies and has been adamant about it for years. This idea is is the closest I've got in a proposal to a single lobby, and that's by by making it one lobby if someone wants to get more than 10K points for standard EM play. Anyone still playing in training then is the equivalent of someone playing in any other lobby.

That is the whole idea.
deleteddeletedabout 12 years ago
I sound like such a stupid hipster.