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Comp Lobby Change Proposals

over 10 years

Hello comp lobby. As some people are discussing, activity has gone down a bit, and yesterday the lobby was delisted from the front page temporarily. As a result of that, we have some new ideas for competitive and training lobby to help revitalize both lobbies in integration and play. It does look likely though that another lobby will replace this placement on the front page if things do not change. I ask that you please review this if you want things to remain as they are now.

If you would like to see the ideas and proposals for training lobby, please view this thread here.

https://epicmafia.com/topic/63210

For now I will hierarchy things that will be done, and those ideas which would be dependent on Lucid and the undertaking work for them.

Main Changes

1) Lobby rename to ‘Ranked’

Having the lobby name as competitive comes off as intimidating for newer players. Whilst competitions are not going anywhere in this lobby, we want to encourage regular play for those who do not want to influence running competitions.

2) Lower point requirement for entry lowered to 500.

Having an entry amount of 1500 is a very large asking score for someone new to the game. By that time they have either settled down in one lobby with no opinion on moving, or even trying out another lobby. I realize this might lead to more reports being done in comp, but I don’t think it’ll hugely influence the amount of reports that have to be done on average that we have now. Existing limits such as new accounts not being able to participate in current trophy rounds won’t be removed.

Future Changes Pending Feedback

1) Greater new range of achievements.

Not everyone wants to play EpicMafia for trophies, but one thing that I’ve learnt is that lots of people enjoy the stat tracking and trying to get achievements. I feel going into every game with the chance to have a reward or unlock would be great, and we can possibly encourage lobby specifics achievements too.

One example I’d like to see with achievements is a much greater range of unlocks. Let’s take the current hunter achievement which requires you to shoot the mafia in 3 way. This isn’t achievable for everyone, but we can make this achievement accessible for all in some way by having levels without downgrading existing criteria.

Here’s an example

*Level 1: Hit the mafia as Hunter

*Level 2: Hit the mafia 10 times as Hunter

*Level 3 (Ranked Exclusive): Hit the mafia in 3 way as Hunter.

Earning an achievement can gain a small emblem, completing the complete range of achievements can earn a badge.

2) Cycling ‘Assignments’ and challenges

Moving back to the topic of not everyone wanting to run for a trophy, or not having the time to do so, having mini competitions known as assignments could be a new, fun aspect that some players might want to participate in. Like happy hours, imagine having weekly challenges such as who can have the most wins as a particular role, or who can achieve the most cop guilty reports in a week. This can keep things fresh and make achieving more accessible.

3) More community consultation on setups and these new ideas

Having submitted achievements and assignments be as easy as submitting new roles for the game would be brilliant if possible. One problem comp has is autonomy, there’s too much interjection with many actions and not many ways for viewpoints to influence the site.

Concluding notes

We’re fully welcoming in embracing ideas for what might help this lobby thrive, so please rate or give your own for consideration. Thanks guys.

over 10 years
Don't think it has worked like that Retti :)

Last round, following a post Satan did on Training forum about encouraging more players to transfer to comp, it became apparent in the ranked games we were hosting (same setups that were comped in that comp round) that many players in training of all creeds and skill were not interested in joining comp for a variety of reasons, the recurring ones being intimidation/insulted in a previous attempt, difficult setups/roles and not being interested in the 'rewards' of playing in comp (I assumed they meant trophies themselves).
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Fluttershy says


Bumpers says

I'm going to forum suspend anyone that is still doing 1v1 arguments after this. I see more coherent posts on Dota forums.


Channel your inner Laexio


YEAH
over 10 years

Cantankerous says

in my experience, most people want to play serious games that require some amount of skill and investment, but they do not like the backlash that comes with mishammering in a Very Serious Game in comp lobby. it's literally just the "well if i lose i'll get yelled so i'll just play where it's lower stakes" mentality.

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NO ONE POST I'M GONNA GO BIG
over 10 years

EmmerrLouise says


Connor says

comp lobby regulars don't want to play with noobs.


Rather than repeatedly saying this is false, it may be a wiser use of everyone's time to consider why some training lobby players may feel this way about comp lobby.


hey maybe dont take my post out of context thanks. i do not believe comp lobby regulars don't want to play with noobs
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in my experience, most people want to play serious games that require some amount of skill and investment, but they do not like the backlash that comes with mishammering in a Very Serious Game in comp lobby. it's literally just the "well if i lose i'll get yelled at so i'll just play where it's lower stakes" mentality.
over 10 years

Retti says

i've never played a single competitive game and said 'man, this guy reeks from training and i hate his guts.' i read like any other player and treat him no different.


I posted something very similar to that in the training lobby thread and then payamcf brought up pranay and I was stumped
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SILENCE FOLKS
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Bumpers says

I'm going to forum suspend anyone that is still doing 1v1 arguments after this. I see more coherent posts on Dota forums.


Channel your inner Laexio
over 10 years
emmer please
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I'm gonna decide.
over 10 years
I'm going to forum suspend anyone that is still doing 1v1 arguments after this. I see more coherent posts on Dota forums.
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As the holder of the highest competitive-based win-rate in the last 3-odd years on this site I believe I should make the decision.
over 10 years
okay this thread is slowly turning into a war between Emmerr and Cantan, no longer are we fighting over the fate of EM. *** getting real. =p
over 10 years
emmerrlouise you're doing yourself an injustice by taking betrayal seriously
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i've never played a single competitive game and said 'man, this guy reeks from training and i hate his guts.' i read like any other player and treat him no different.
over 10 years
i love being right all the time about everything
over 10 years

Duppi says

WOW did u attack me emmer wtf?


Sorry I know I've been a total two-faced so-and-so to you but in reality your snaps are bad and you should feel bad.



Catankerous you are a funny one. :~)
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EmmerrLouise says


Connor says

comp lobby regulars don't want to play with noobs.


Rather than repeatedly saying this is false, it may be a wiser use of everyone's time to consider why some training lobby players may feel this way about comp lobby.


because that is what they're told by the training vets who couldn't make it in competitive lobby lol
over 10 years
players in training are just as aggressive when somebody makes a mistake. when you play in training for a bit, you learn to avoid those mistakes. if you played in comp for a bit, you'd learn how to avoid making mistakes and realize that one group is not less aggressive than teh other.
over 10 years
WOW did u attack me emmer wtf?
over 10 years

Connor says

comp lobby regulars don't want to play with noobs.


Rather than repeatedly saying this is false, it may be a wiser use of everyone's time to consider why some training lobby players may feel this way about comp lobby.
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EmmerrLouise says


Cantankerous says

i'm quoting this post for the next page since it's so good.


Do it - just makes you look a bit silly when I was clearly replying to Betrayal. :)


i don't really care who you were responding to, i basically destroyed your post and you're pretty transparently baselessly attacking everyone in this thread
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i have a sinking feeling this isn't going to work so i think competitive will die out eventually
over 10 years
retti man dont get ahead of yourself. it'll just end badly. leave it be and let bumpers lead the way