Epicmafia

Comp Lobby Change Proposals

over 10 years

Hello comp lobby. As some people are discussing, activity has gone down a bit, and yesterday the lobby was delisted from the front page temporarily. As a result of that, we have some new ideas for competitive and training lobby to help revitalize both lobbies in integration and play. It does look likely though that another lobby will replace this placement on the front page if things do not change. I ask that you please review this if you want things to remain as they are now.

If you would like to see the ideas and proposals for training lobby, please view this thread here.

https://epicmafia.com/topic/63210

For now I will hierarchy things that will be done, and those ideas which would be dependent on Lucid and the undertaking work for them.

Main Changes

1) Lobby rename to ‘Ranked’

Having the lobby name as competitive comes off as intimidating for newer players. Whilst competitions are not going anywhere in this lobby, we want to encourage regular play for those who do not want to influence running competitions.

2) Lower point requirement for entry lowered to 500.

Having an entry amount of 1500 is a very large asking score for someone new to the game. By that time they have either settled down in one lobby with no opinion on moving, or even trying out another lobby. I realize this might lead to more reports being done in comp, but I don’t think it’ll hugely influence the amount of reports that have to be done on average that we have now. Existing limits such as new accounts not being able to participate in current trophy rounds won’t be removed.

Future Changes Pending Feedback

1) Greater new range of achievements.

Not everyone wants to play EpicMafia for trophies, but one thing that I’ve learnt is that lots of people enjoy the stat tracking and trying to get achievements. I feel going into every game with the chance to have a reward or unlock would be great, and we can possibly encourage lobby specifics achievements too.

One example I’d like to see with achievements is a much greater range of unlocks. Let’s take the current hunter achievement which requires you to shoot the mafia in 3 way. This isn’t achievable for everyone, but we can make this achievement accessible for all in some way by having levels without downgrading existing criteria.

Here’s an example

*Level 1: Hit the mafia as Hunter

*Level 2: Hit the mafia 10 times as Hunter

*Level 3 (Ranked Exclusive): Hit the mafia in 3 way as Hunter.

Earning an achievement can gain a small emblem, completing the complete range of achievements can earn a badge.

2) Cycling ‘Assignments’ and challenges

Moving back to the topic of not everyone wanting to run for a trophy, or not having the time to do so, having mini competitions known as assignments could be a new, fun aspect that some players might want to participate in. Like happy hours, imagine having weekly challenges such as who can have the most wins as a particular role, or who can achieve the most cop guilty reports in a week. This can keep things fresh and make achieving more accessible.

3) More community consultation on setups and these new ideas

Having submitted achievements and assignments be as easy as submitting new roles for the game would be brilliant if possible. One problem comp has is autonomy, there’s too much interjection with many actions and not many ways for viewpoints to influence the site.

Concluding notes

We’re fully welcoming in embracing ideas for what might help this lobby thrive, so please rate or give your own for consideration. Thanks guys.

deletedover 10 years

Bumpers says

No one is being forcibly moved.

what if it was voluntary

deletedover 10 years

EmmerrLouise says

Cantankerous says

emmerlouise named me immediately because i'm calling out her hypocrisy lol ok

MY hypocrisy? You have ONE report on me that was no-vio'd and that I wholly apologised for.

Other than that, honeybun, you're empty. :)

really, since the vibe i'm getting from all your passive aggressiveness and immediacy to name me as a "comp circlejerker" really points towards you being mad about me calling you the problem.

Betrayal

over 10 years

EmmerrLouise says

Sure. There's only 2 that I can be bothered to backtrack.

Catank is known for being an *** in games to people who are not as godly as he (when in fact he's no better than anyone else at playing mafia) and then he hops on the "save the training lobby nubs - they need higher comp lobby players" bw because that's the popular opinion at the time and he just wants to be loved by all.

Connor has already used the fact I play in training as some sort of slur against me after saying we should help the poor noobs in training - moron's way of getting a merge without actually supporting reasons for the merge.

All in all, this sort of thing is EXACTLY the problem with this website.

srsly. epic mafia isjust a game like every other game you've ever played. do you really care about other people and what they think of you or whether they call you a newbie or not? it doesnt matter, you're taking epicmafia way more seriously than you should be. just play for fun regardless of what people think or say and enjoy the game. this website has no problem, you do!

Bumpers

over 10 years

Betrayal says

Bumpers I have a question for you, in your Training thread you set the point cutoff for Training lobby should be 10,000? Why is that so? If you suggest that the point required for Comp. lobby be 500? If people should be out of training by 10,000 points, shouldn't the requirement for competitive be 10,000 points? Vice versa if you allow people in comp at 500 points, shouldn't the cutoff for training be 500 points then? what is your stance on this?

People don't need to be forced out of training if they don't want to, that is the whole idea. You're not reading this correctly at all, the barrier will be lower for comp/ranked for people to try it out, and the point cap is to stop farming in training lobby.

No one is being forcibly moved.

deletedover 10 years

Bumpers says

Retti says

I just want an answer about the trial period, and whether lucid or you for that matter would be willing to do it.

You're not getting a trial period with trophies in training. I said this at the start.

deletedover 10 years

and he just wants to be loved by all.

also wrong

Owen

over 10 years

EmmerrLouise says

because that's the popular opinion at the time and he just wants to be loved by all.

this is just not true

EmmerrLouise

over 10 years

Cantankerous says

emmerlouise named me immediately because i'm calling out her hypocrisy lol ok

MY hypocrisy? You have ONE report on me that was no-vio'd and that I wholly apologised for.

Other than that, honeybun, you're empty. :)

deletedover 10 years

he hops on the "save the training lobby nubs - they need higher comp lobby players" bw

you are deliriously mad and also wrong.

Bumpers

over 10 years

Retti says

I just want an answer about the trial period, and whether lucid or you for that matter would be willing to do it.

You're not getting a trial period with trophies in training. I said this at the start.

deletedover 10 years

emmerlouise named me immediately because i'm calling out her hypocrisy lol ok

EmmerrLouise

over 10 years

Sure. There's only 2 that I can be bothered to backtrack.

Catank is known for being an *** in games to people who are not as godly as he (when in fact he's no better than anyone else at playing mafia) and then he hops on the "save the training lobby nubs - they need higher comp lobby players" bw because that's the popular opinion at the time and he just wants to be loved by all.

Connor has already used the fact I play in training as some sort of slur against me after saying we should help the poor noobs in training - moron's way of getting a merge without actually supporting reasons for the merge.

All in all, this sort of thing is EXACTLY the problem with this website.

Betrayal

over 10 years

Bumpers I have a question for you, in your Training thread you set the point cutoff for Training lobby should be 10,000? Why is that so? If you suggest that the point required for Comp. lobby be 500? If people should be out of training by 10,000 points, shouldn't the requirement for competitive be 10,000 points? Vice versa if you allow people in comp at 500 points, shouldn't the cutoff for training be 500 points then? what is your stance on this?

deletedover 10 years

i don't think merging the lobbies is a good idea. i think we should keep them separate but fix how we run house.

deletedover 10 years

Bumpers says

"As a representative of training, I-
"As a higher up comp status,-

Can anyone who has come in with this attitude, especially those asking for reunification with this mindset leave. You're clearly incapable of reading threads, looking at the only options that the site admin is fine with, and being unable to look further than 2 weeks in the future.

This is the exact mess that started the splintering of lobbies to begin with, which is being used as a campaign point for reunification!

I just want an answer about the trial period, and whether lucid or you for that matter would be willing to do it.

Bumpers

over 10 years

"As a representative of training, I-
"As a higher up comp status,-

Can anyone who has come in with this attitude, especially those asking for reunification with this mindset leave. You're clearly incapable of reading threads, looking at the only options that the site admin is fine with, and being unable to look further than 2 weeks in the future.

This is the exact mess that started the splintering of lobbies to begin with, which is being used as a campaign point for reunification!

deletedover 10 years

EmmerrLouise says

It's not about taking a game seriously - some people on this thread know they're extremely intolerant of 'noobs' or 'being bad',

name them

EmmerrLouise

over 10 years

It's not about taking a game seriously - some people on this thread know they're extremely intolerant of 'noobs' or 'being bad', then they advocate merging lobbies to 'help noobs' which is transparently BS - hypocrisy is rife on this website.

deletedover 10 years

EmmerrLouise says

Cantankerous says

*uses autism and gets mad when people don't sheep her unexplained reads in games* Comp Lobby Is So Destructive

- used once, accepted the consequences.
- gets frustrated when the fact i'm a "training lobby noob" warrants ignoring every read of mine in comp games, many of which are legit and correct.
- doesn't have to rely on meta or other BS to swoon through each round unlike many many many players in comp lobby.

you're actually basically a 3.0 average comp player. you went on a trophy run, expected people to give you extra special treatment because you were in a run, and you got mad to the point of using "autism" while pretending that everyone else around you has anger issues. i don't get where the people you're criticizing ends and where you begin, but i'm sensing that they're pretty intermingled.

deletedover 10 years

Betrayal says

Fluttershy says

Comp is the minority so their votes matter less. #FPTP

you can't classify players based on a lobby. players can play in both lobbies. therefore classification is stupid. this isn't the 1960's where we classified blacks and whites. this isn't the revival of the Ku Klux Klan.

The KKK's height was in the 20s not the 60s bro. And if you polled every player in both lobbies, the Training way would win. That's why you should all play Sandbox :)

deletedover 10 years

Don't make me do this alone, bumpers.

Betrayal

over 10 years

EmmerrLouise says

Cantankerous says

*uses autism and gets mad when people don't sheep her unexplained reads in games* Comp Lobby Is So Destructive

- used once, accepted the consequences.
- gets frustrated when the fact i'm a "training lobby noob" warrants ignoring every read of mine in comp games, many of which are legit and correct.
- doesn't have to rely on meta or other BS to swoon through each round unlike many many many players in comp lobby.

emmerr it doesnt matter if ppl call u a training noob or not, u take this game way too seriously if u really care whether ur a noob at mafia or not, there are more important things in life like getting one

Owen

over 10 years

emmer why don't you hop off your high horse and do something about it

EmmerrLouise

over 10 years

Cantankerous says

*uses autism and gets mad when people don't sheep her unexplained reads in games* Comp Lobby Is So Destructive

- used once, accepted the consequences.
- gets frustrated when the fact i'm a "training lobby noob" warrants ignoring every read of mine in comp games, many of which are legit and correct.
- doesn't have to rely on meta or other BS to swoon through each round unlike many many many players in comp lobby.

Betrayal

over 10 years

Fluttershy says

Comp is the minority so their votes matter less. #FPTP

you can't classify players based on a lobby. players can play in both lobbies. therefore classification is stupid. this isn't the 1960's where we classified blacks and whites. this isn't the revival of the Ku Klux Klan.