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Comp Lobby Change Proposals

Bumpers
over 10 years

Hello comp lobby. As some people are discussing, activity has gone down a bit, and yesterday the lobby was delisted from the front page temporarily. As a result of that, we have some new ideas for competitive and training lobby to help revitalize both lobbies in integration and play. It does look likely though that another lobby will replace this placement on the front page if things do not change. I ask that you please review this if you want things to remain as they are now.

If you would like to see the ideas and proposals for training lobby, please view this thread here.

https://epicmafia.com/topic/63210

For now I will hierarchy things that will be done, and those ideas which would be dependent on Lucid and the undertaking work for them.

Main Changes

1) Lobby rename to ‘Ranked’

Having the lobby name as competitive comes off as intimidating for newer players. Whilst competitions are not going anywhere in this lobby, we want to encourage regular play for those who do not want to influence running competitions.

2) Lower point requirement for entry lowered to 500.

Having an entry amount of 1500 is a very large asking score for someone new to the game. By that time they have either settled down in one lobby with no opinion on moving, or even trying out another lobby. I realize this might lead to more reports being done in comp, but I don’t think it’ll hugely influence the amount of reports that have to be done on average that we have now. Existing limits such as new accounts not being able to participate in current trophy rounds won’t be removed.

Future Changes Pending Feedback

1) Greater new range of achievements.

Not everyone wants to play EpicMafia for trophies, but one thing that I’ve learnt is that lots of people enjoy the stat tracking and trying to get achievements. I feel going into every game with the chance to have a reward or unlock would be great, and we can possibly encourage lobby specifics achievements too.

One example I’d like to see with achievements is a much greater range of unlocks. Let’s take the current hunter achievement which requires you to shoot the mafia in 3 way. This isn’t achievable for everyone, but we can make this achievement accessible for all in some way by having levels without downgrading existing criteria.

Here’s an example

*Level 1: Hit the mafia as Hunter

*Level 2: Hit the mafia 10 times as Hunter

*Level 3 (Ranked Exclusive): Hit the mafia in 3 way as Hunter.

Earning an achievement can gain a small emblem, completing the complete range of achievements can earn a badge.

2) Cycling ‘Assignments’ and challenges

Moving back to the topic of not everyone wanting to run for a trophy, or not having the time to do so, having mini competitions known as assignments could be a new, fun aspect that some players might want to participate in. Like happy hours, imagine having weekly challenges such as who can have the most wins as a particular role, or who can achieve the most cop guilty reports in a week. This can keep things fresh and make achieving more accessible.

3) More community consultation on setups and these new ideas

Having submitted achievements and assignments be as easy as submitting new roles for the game would be brilliant if possible. One problem comp has is autonomy, there’s too much interjection with many actions and not many ways for viewpoints to influence the site.

Concluding notes

We’re fully welcoming in embracing ideas for what might help this lobby thrive, so please rate or give your own for consideration. Thanks guys.

Steven
over 10 years
When's the last time the mod team caught abc game throwing
Warrens
over 10 years
if the entry to comp is being changed to 500, i think it would be better to change the competitive game entry to 500.
Warrens
over 10 years
nikki says the mod team can handle it
Steven
over 10 years
500 points is too low for abc, he already has enough GT alts no need to triple them. What we have now is good, just make it to join the competition rather than lobby
Edark
over 10 years
I like how many changes this site have had due to abc
Edark
over 10 years
nah, it should be like a 50 point requirement since abc
deletedover 10 years
if we're taking steps to integrate the lobbies again without merging then i suggest deleting the training forums and removing the requirement that you have to join this lobby to post.
Warrens
over 10 years
that seems easy
Warrens
over 10 years
take out point requirement for comp, make it 500 points to join the competition
deletedover 10 years
i like that idea. not that anyone plays anything in comp except for golden heart.
Steven
over 10 years
Not reading the thread but:

Take out the point requirement for comp completely, and just make the current point requirement be for actually joining the competition.

Curious beginners will have access to both lobbies and can play ranked gallis hunter and party and whatever in comp before eventually moving on to competitive games. The point amount is fine though IMO.

Changing the names is cool, why not. Why not for most of the other ones too, idk if they will change anything but they probably wont do damage.
Jasprar
over 10 years

Zlake says

teh name should be like main lobby imo


Bring back main lobby!
Zlake
over 10 years
teh name should be like main lobby imo
Riddler
over 10 years
Not being *** to read anything within the thread.

1) "Ranked" implies "Red Heart Lobby", since that's how we've always referred to each type of heart.
2) 1500 points is 25 wins. That's not long enough to "settle in to a lobby." If it is, that person shouldn't be in competitive anyway. 500 points allows someone to win just 8 games and bring a gamethrowing alt into competitive.
3) who gives a *** about achievements
Jupiter
over 10 years
o true
Zeus
over 10 years

Jupiter says




Yeah, that's filtered by open/in progress/ended. If we have a lot of fancy pants/urnanked games going on at once, competitive games will be on page three before they fill.
Jupiter
over 10 years
Zeus
over 10 years
Nikki, please talk to Lucid about implementing a filter in lobbies which can sort games by unranked/ranked/competitive, otherwise competitive games won't fill that easily.
deletedover 10 years
i could in theory get down with single lobby then but we're not getting it done any time in the near future so let's just talk about reasonable goals for now.
Clair
over 10 years
yea it can be misleading but i like the name so i wont bother suggesting the change
deletedover 10 years

Connor says

no one's suggesting we be rid of custom lobbies/sandbox


oh. well single lobby seemed to imply getting rid of sandbox. my mistake i guess.
deletedover 10 years

Betrayal says

Bumpers stated several times in earlier pages that lucid isn't up for a single lobby. So that's outta the question. And he stated that we aren't renaming the lobbies unless it's to ranked. I don't know what the point of us discussing any new ideas was for since anything that will be implemented was already mentioned in Bumper's OP. Basically, we all just wasted our time coming up with new ideas.


The sad thing is I don't think lowering the point admissions or renaming it to ranked will change much.
deletedover 10 years

Betrayal says

Bumpers stated several times in earlier pages that lucid isn't up for a single lobby. So that's outta the question. And he stated that we aren't renaming the lobbies unless it's to ranked. I don't know what the point of us discussing any new ideas was for since anything that will be implemented was already mentioned in Bumper's OP. Basically, we all just wasted our time coming up with new ideas.


what happened to your phone a friend deal with lucid
deletedover 10 years

Betrayal says


Smorlicious says

If training lobby people AREN"T intimidated by the games/people in comp. lobby, then what do you think is stopping them from joining in the first place?


The name. We have to rename it from Competitive lobby to Advanced lobby and Training lobby to Beginner lobby. Trust me, it will make a huge difference in the influx of players in the new Advanced lobby. This may seem like a simple solution but it is the only one that will really work.


people aren't idiots.
Clair
over 10 years
no one's suggesting we be rid of custom lobbies/sandbox