Epicmafia

Question RE: Ethereal

over 8 years

The question posed in this thread is not necessarily one of the moderation team, the site owner lucidrains/Phillip Wang, or other moderators/admins on the moderation team of this website.

People are calling for Ethereal's head because they were recently promoted from role moderator to moderator. The people calling for Ethereal to be demodded are generally viewing and accusing Ethereal as a predator.

My question is, if you guys care so much about Ethereal being a potential predator, should you not be arguing that Ethereal should be site banned? (Personally, I don't think Ethereal should be site banned. She has done her time for being banned and is currently a very big help for the moderators and cheating investigation team, in my opinion.) Your argument seems to not want to rid the website of possible predators, but to just make sure they don't become moderators. It doesn't really make much sense to me.

And even if Ethereal is demodded, guess what? She's still going to help with Cheating cases and finding banned users... nothing is going to change (except that she won't be able to do reports). Is that really going to be a sigh of relief for all of you?

So if Ethereal is demodded, what difference is it to you people if she's still allowed to be on the website...?

EDIT:

I am in favour of demodding Ethereal to please the community fwiw (I was before I even made this thread), but if we do that I don't really get why they are even allowed to be on the site anyways. I'm seeing these arguments I just don't agree with them; potential is potential at the end of the day, and I believe Ethereal should be allowed to stay on the site

deletedover 8 years

Clearly you weren't here in 2014

Corruption

over 8 years

Devante says

This site has never been this serious

I beg to differ

Devante

over 8 years

This site has never been this serious

Bumpers

over 8 years

Totori says

Nah, most of this is pretty much just peeps out for blood.

No, it's not. I think it's one of the worst lows to have a moderation team label the past as fake, when I as an admin had to deal with Petri posting x-rated yuri images on a moderation account.

Or abusive off-site comments

Not to mention the endless amount of cheating.

Any apologies for it? Na.

Guess it must all be fake then.

Totori

over 8 years

Bumpers says

Cody says

When I offered Sammie a position on the team I was not privy to all of the details about her history. Would knowing them have affected my decision? Probably. But I believe that after some reconsideration I would have come to the same conclusion: that she has reformed and is not a threat to anyone on this site.

I'm willing to reconsider her appointment to site moderator, however, if the entire community (read: more than just the vocal ~20 people that have been witch-hunting her) is against the decision that I made. I'm here to serve the community after all.

You're already making a mistake in labelling it as a witch hunt. Most of the complaints are of revisionism; labelling actions in the past as trolling. That is far from the case and I feel her gender is playing far too much of an influence into the side of the argument.

Most us want to know why these 5 years are 'trolling', especially when it involves off site harassment, mod account exploitation and more. Having someone call it as fake is insulting.

Nah, most of this is pretty much just peeps out for blood.

Corruption

over 8 years

Good guy Sims, bringer of stability.

JeffreyAaron

over 8 years

dazeldafreak says

Corruption says

IAmNotABC says

Corruption says

IAmNotABC says

ITS ONLY GONNA GET WORSE FROM HERE.

Damn. And it had been improving so much in recent years!

Nothing improved as long as there are not an admin who does not change for a longer time than 3-4-5 months.

WE NEED SOMEONE TO STAY WITH YEARS.

Has there even been an admin since me who lasted longer than 5 months?

me

Sims

Bumpers

over 8 years

Cody says

When I offered Sammie a position on the team I was not privy to all of the details about her history. Would knowing them have affected my decision? Probably. But I believe that after some reconsideration I would have come to the same conclusion: that she has reformed and is not a threat to anyone on this site.

I'm willing to reconsider her appointment to site moderator, however, if the entire community (read: more than just the vocal ~20 people that have been witch-hunting her) is against the decision that I made. I'm here to serve the community after all.

You're already making a mistake in labelling it as a witch hunt. Most of the complaints are of revisionism; labelling actions in the past as trolling. That is far from the case and I feel her gender is playing far too much of an influence into the side of the argument.

Most us want to know why these 5 years are 'trolling', especially when it involves off site harassment, mod account exploitation and more. Having someone call it as fake is insulting.

xela

over 8 years

burn them all

dazeldafreak

over 8 years

Corruption says

IAmNotABC says

Corruption says

IAmNotABC says

ITS ONLY GONNA GET WORSE FROM HERE.

Damn. And it had been improving so much in recent years!

Nothing improved as long as there are not an admin who does not change for a longer time than 3-4-5 months.

WE NEED SOMEONE TO STAY WITH YEARS.

Has there even been an admin since me who lasted longer than 5 months?

Orion

over 8 years

I don't understand how Cody doesn't realize the correct course of action.. it's common sense...

Orion

over 8 years

over 50 people had signed that petition on that thread to demod them which has since been removed..

leo

over 8 years

Cody, you should probably ask both your mod team and the community on demodding her. Giga himself is in favor of demodding her.

Also, this isn't an apology or a reasonable excuse. If just anyone can be modded without a background check, that's very dangerous. Like, what if someone who apped is... I don't know... a pedophile? Hell, we've got people who have faked their own death here; a forum search should be mandatory.

If you weren't privy to her history when people were mentioning the pedophilia allegations only a few months ago, ( would which be a quick forum search ), then maybe someone else should have been looking over applications. And, again, some mods knew, and if they happened to not inform you, that's messed up. But if they did tell you, then you still should have asked whether or not it was appropriate to mod her.

Sims

over 8 years

Kerry says

i'm vehemently against arcbell being modded because it was only in april he threatened to do something to connor to get ian unbanned and afterwards revealed he was going to hijack the em userbase for his new site

but i feel a little biased because he broke a promise w/ coni-chan :(

JimSpermWorm

over 8 years

http://www.strawpoll.me/10372769

denial

over 8 years

Blister says

Cody says

When I offered Sammie a position on the team I was not privy to all of the details about her history. Would knowing them have affected my decision? Probably. But I believe that after some reconsideration I would have come to the same conclusion: that she has reformed and is not a threat to anyone on this site.

I'm willing to reconsider her appointment to site moderator, however, if the entire community (read: more than just the vocal ~20 people) is against the decision that I made. I'm here to serve the community after all.

I'd be willing to bet the majority of the userbase would be against the modding of a pedophile, not just the forum community.

blister, are you saying we should leave this to the community poll? i think more people are interested in voicing whether they are going to play overwatch or not

deletedover 8 years

Cody says

When I offered Sammie a position on the team I was not privy to all of the details about her history. Would knowing them have affected my decision? Probably. But I believe that after some reconsideration I would have come to the same conclusion: that she has reformed and is not a threat to anyone on this site.

I'm willing to reconsider her appointment to site moderator, however, if the entire community (read: more than just the vocal ~20 people) is against the decision that I made. I'm here to serve the community after all.

I'd be willing to bet the majority of the userbase would be against the modding of a pedophile, not just the forum community.

Cody

over 8 years

When I offered Sammie a position on the team I was not privy to all of the details about her history. Would knowing them have affected my decision? Probably. But I believe that after some reconsideration I would have come to the same conclusion: that she has reformed and is not a threat to anyone on this site.

I'm willing to reconsider her appointment to site moderator, however, if the entire community (read: more than just the vocal ~20 people that have been witch-hunting her) is against the decision that I made. I'm here to serve the community after all.

Corruption

over 8 years

Bumpers says

Corruption says

Bumpers says

Corruption says

IAmNotABC says

Corruption says

IAmNotABC says

ITS ONLY GONNA GET WORSE FROM HERE.

Damn. And it had been improving so much in recent years!

Nothing improved as long as there are not an admin who does not change for a longer time than 3-4-5 months.

WE NEED SOMEONE TO STAY WITH YEARS.

Has there even been an admin since me who lasted longer than 5 months?

https://epicmafia.com/u/Bumpers

I'm fairly sure you were admin before me, not afterward...

Sorry was just rewriting history, it's working well so far.

True. I suppose this shows that had I not peacefully stepped down and retired to win all those trophies; the site would never have got so unstable.

Bumpers

over 8 years

Corruption says

Bumpers says

Corruption says

IAmNotABC says

Corruption says

IAmNotABC says

ITS ONLY GONNA GET WORSE FROM HERE.

Damn. And it had been improving so much in recent years!

Nothing improved as long as there are not an admin who does not change for a longer time than 3-4-5 months.

WE NEED SOMEONE TO STAY WITH YEARS.

Has there even been an admin since me who lasted longer than 5 months?

https://epicmafia.com/u/Bumpers

I'm fairly sure you were admin before me, not afterward...

Sorry was just rewriting history, it's working well so far.

IAmNotABC

over 8 years

Corruption says

IAmNotABC says

Corruption says

IAmNotABC says

ITS ONLY GONNA GET WORSE FROM HERE.

Damn. And it had been improving so much in recent years!

Nothing improved as long as there are not an admin who does not change for a longer time than 3-4-5 months.

WE NEED SOMEONE TO STAY WITH YEARS.

Has there even been an admin since me who lasted longer than 5 months?

Corruption

over 8 years

Bumpers says

Corruption says

IAmNotABC says

Corruption says

IAmNotABC says

ITS ONLY GONNA GET WORSE FROM HERE.

Damn. And it had been improving so much in recent years!

Nothing improved as long as there are not an admin who does not change for a longer time than 3-4-5 months.

WE NEED SOMEONE TO STAY WITH YEARS.

Has there even been an admin since me who lasted longer than 5 months?

https://epicmafia.com/u/Bumpers

I'm fairly sure you were admin before me, not afterward...

Bumpers

over 8 years

Corruption says

IAmNotABC says

Corruption says

IAmNotABC says

ITS ONLY GONNA GET WORSE FROM HERE.

Damn. And it had been improving so much in recent years!

Nothing improved as long as there are not an admin who does not change for a longer time than 3-4-5 months.

WE NEED SOMEONE TO STAY WITH YEARS.

Has there even been an admin since me who lasted longer than 5 months?

https://epicmafia.com/u/Bumpers

Corruption

over 8 years

IAmNotABC says

Corruption says

IAmNotABC says

ITS ONLY GONNA GET WORSE FROM HERE.

Damn. And it had been improving so much in recent years!

Nothing improved as long as there are not an admin who does not change for a longer time than 3-4-5 months.

WE NEED SOMEONE TO STAY WITH YEARS.

Has there even been an admin since me who lasted longer than 5 months?

IAmNotABC

over 8 years

I have standarts. And you ruined all of them the moment you started up the role mods, and up everything there was.