Epicmafia

Question RE: Ethereal

over 8 years

The question posed in this thread is not necessarily one of the moderation team, the site owner lucidrains/Phillip Wang, or other moderators/admins on the moderation team of this website.

People are calling for Ethereal's head because they were recently promoted from role moderator to moderator. The people calling for Ethereal to be demodded are generally viewing and accusing Ethereal as a predator.

My question is, if you guys care so much about Ethereal being a potential predator, should you not be arguing that Ethereal should be site banned? (Personally, I don't think Ethereal should be site banned. She has done her time for being banned and is currently a very big help for the moderators and cheating investigation team, in my opinion.) Your argument seems to not want to rid the website of possible predators, but to just make sure they don't become moderators. It doesn't really make much sense to me.

And even if Ethereal is demodded, guess what? She's still going to help with Cheating cases and finding banned users... nothing is going to change (except that she won't be able to do reports). Is that really going to be a sigh of relief for all of you?

So if Ethereal is demodded, what difference is it to you people if she's still allowed to be on the website...?

EDIT:

I am in favour of demodding Ethereal to please the community fwiw (I was before I even made this thread), but if we do that I don't really get why they are even allowed to be on the site anyways. I'm seeing these arguments I just don't agree with them; potential is potential at the end of the day, and I believe Ethereal should be allowed to stay on the site

leo

over 8 years

JeffreyAaron says

Also, Leo if you'd like I could go in a little about how your attempts at using big words has actually caused you to completely contradict yourself.

Here's a sample:

You say Cody inadvertently excused Eth's past, yet then say that he knowingly modded a pedophile. I get you want to use big words and all but you are dragging yourself, mate.

Yes, because they go hand in hand. He knowingly modded a pedophile without addressing the community, thus looking as though he was excusing their actions.

Also, I'm not your mate. I know you hate me, but there's no need to be extremely civil.

deletedover 8 years

Devante seriously lmao what the f*ck are you posting

deletedover 8 years

Devante says

User x maybe posted child pron 5+ years ago when they were probably an Internet grown 4chan adolescent

5 years later u guys label them a transexual pedo

Your chronic inability to comprehend even the most basic content continues to astound, a year down the road of when I first had the misfortune to read anything originating from your keyboard.

deletedover 8 years

you can't please everyone on this site so might as well please the majority or say fck the majority and do whatever the fck you want

JeffreyAaron

over 8 years

Also, Leo if you'd like I could go in a little about how your attempts at using big words has actually caused you to completely contradict yourself.

Here's a sample:

You say Cody inadvertently excused Eth's past, yet then say that he knowingly modded a pedophile. I get you want to use big words and all but you are dragging yourself, mate.

Bumpers

over 8 years

Vancyon says

Sensationalism.

Don't join in on the revisionism Vancy, you've been around long enough to know most of the antics.

BearGuru

over 8 years

My opinion was my own, and has no reflection on the mod team as a whole, which i expressed.

leo

over 8 years

Tsugumi says

There's a strong chance he's telling the truth and took me calling Ethereal a pedophile as a joke but considering the context (Direct question about why I disliked Petri+Who on earth accuses someone of being a pedophile as a joke) that was a really puzzling conclusion.

Then he should have checked. Like he should have done in the first place. It's not your fault Cody messed up.

Bumpers

over 8 years

Cody says

I believe that the motivations that she had then and the motivations that she has now are dramatically different and that there is no chance that, put in the same situations, she would do it again. Perhaps I am too willing to give people chances, but when someone shows me that no facet of her behavior points to a proclivity for harassing, provoking, or antagonizing other EM users, the logical conclusion for me is that she is not a threat.

I understand that I cannot possibly have the same perspective as the people who have had to deal with what she has done in the past. I know that she broke some bridges that will take a long time to repair, and some that she can probably never repair. But I don't think that she should be denied a chance at attempting to do so.

I don't want this to come off as a threat, it's certainly not my intention. This has happened so much in the past that to have one of your mod team use the excuse of it being "trolling" is laughable. I have no issues with how Petri identifies or acts, but there has never been an apology for such actions or even remote proof of redemption.

I'm not calling her a paedophile, or that she's impossible to change, but I am saying that this is far too irrational without any prior research. I don't want to see anyone else burnt by someone who can't apologize for their wrongdoings.

deletedover 8 years

I think something deeper is going on. I think Arcmafia.com is coming sooner than we think

Devante

over 8 years

User x maybe posted child pron 5+ years ago when they were probably an Internet grown 4chan adolescent

5 years later u guys label them a transexual pedo

Sonrio

over 8 years

Matter of fact what are ALL the mods thoughts. Bring them in

BearGuru

over 8 years

ling says

Yea like im not that much against modding petri, its judt the general lack of awareness of modding someone like that, petri was worse than abc is now back in the day and arcbell threatens the site when he doesnt get his way and hacks accpunts on a regular basis

Summer of end EM

deletedover 8 years

There's a strong chance he's telling the truth and took me calling Ethereal a pedophile as a joke but considering the context (Direct question about why I disliked Petri+Who on earth accuses someone of being a pedophile as a joke) that was a really puzzling conclusion.

deletedover 8 years

Cody why do you even want to take that risk, are you willing to take all responsibility for whatever ethereal may do if you are wrong about their intentions?

Because if you are kudo to you, i wouldn't want that blood on my hands. same goes for arcbell tbh let's not lose sight of the fact that arcbell was also an awful choice.

Sonrio

over 8 years

Hey vancy what are your thoughts

deletedover 8 years

The line to be drawn is pretty simple here really: she shouldn't be modded.

Given her past and refusal to even acknowledge it says it all.

ling

over 8 years

Yea like im not that much against modding petri, its judt the general lack of awareness of modding someone like that, petri was worse than abc is now back in the day and arcbell threatens the site when he doesnt get his way and hacks accpunts on a regular basis

deletedover 8 years

Sensationalism.

leo

over 8 years

JeffreyAaron says

Leo, you're completely reaching to say that Cody is promoting pedophilia. Watch your words. It's dangerous to place words where words aren't.

He modded a pedophile without wondering how minors on this site would respond. He modded one knowingly, DESPITE the protests of others. If someone says it's promoting, they aren't entirely wrong.

If he had brought this up, then there'd be no doubt he wasn't in support of their old actions.

Oh woops, in that context I meant promoting as in modding. Still true though.

JeffreyAaron

over 8 years

Leo, you're completely reaching to say that Cody is promoting pedophilia. Watch your words. It's dangerous to place words where words aren't.

leo

over 8 years

Cody, you messed up. It was your first move as admin and you completely blew it. You know what would help?

Being honest that you knowingly modded a pedophile without asking the community.

Devante

over 8 years

You guys eventually got over a racist & a cheater being admin. I have faith that given time you'll get over this

Bumpers

over 8 years

BearGuru says

ling says

But this site no longer has standards for mods other than 'will u hopefully last a long time and mot quit' and 'do a lot of reports'

Sammie has done 72 reports, putting her in 3rd for most reports in the last week

Woohoo?

deletedover 8 years

She shouldn't be modded regardless of your beliefs about her intent