Question RE: Ethereal

Giga13about 10 years ago

The question posed in this thread is not necessarily one of the moderation team, the site owner lucidrains/Phillip Wang, or other moderators/admins on the moderation team of this website.

People are calling for Ethereal's head because they were recently promoted from role moderator to moderator. The people calling for Ethereal to be demodded are generally viewing and accusing Ethereal as a predator.

My question is, if you guys care so much about Ethereal being a potential predator, should you not be arguing that Ethereal should be site banned? (Personally, I don't think Ethereal should be site banned. She has done her time for being banned and is currently a very big help for the moderators and cheating investigation team, in my opinion.) Your argument seems to not want to rid the website of possible predators, but to just make sure they don't become moderators. It doesn't really make much sense to me.

And even if Ethereal is demodded, guess what? She's still going to help with Cheating cases and finding banned users... nothing is going to change (except that she won't be able to do reports). Is that really going to be a sigh of relief for all of you?

So if Ethereal is demodded, what difference is it to you people if she's still allowed to be on the website...?

EDIT:

I am in favour of demodding Ethereal to please the community fwiw (I was before I even made this thread), but if we do that I don't really get why they are even allowed to be on the site anyways. I'm seeing these arguments I just don't agree with them; potential is potential at the end of the day, and I believe Ethereal should be allowed to stay on the site

JeffreyAaronabout 10 years ago
Sonrio
jeff kill yourself
Let's do the Leo with this quote and you can report me!

[6/1/16, 10:00:30 AM] Jeff: Leo I hope you die
[6/1/16, 10:00:39 AM] Leo: I'm so innocent!
[6/1/16, 10:00:49 AM] Jeff: Die in a fire.
[6/1/16, 10:00:59 AM] Leo: Please, be my friend!!!!
Solaceabout 10 years ago
If you want to report moderator misconduct, it will be reviewed.

But I don't think the Skype logs in the original pastebin are enough to label them as a direct danger to the site.
leoabout 10 years ago
Cody, why didn't you bring that up immediately, then?
Sonrioabout 10 years ago
I LITERALY TOLD DEVANTE TO DIE EARLIER solace this is bias
deletedabout 10 years ago
abc is great
BearGuruabout 10 years ago
Tsugumi
Cody
One important aspect of this vision is that mods are not seen as "enemies of fun."
uhhh i mean i don't really have the same vision so i don't mind but you modded public enemies #1 and #2 when it comes to fun
abc is a blast. not even joking.
deletedabout 10 years agoedited
Cody
One important aspect of this vision is that mods are not seen as "enemies of fun."
uhhh i mean i don't really have the same vision (or any vision for the site) so i don't mind but you modded public enemies #1 and #2 when it comes to fun
deletedabout 10 years ago
aladrew
This is mains attempt to get someone as big as equity so they have memes
R E L E A S E
lingabout 10 years ago
JeffreyAaron
Nah. Leo and Jeff ended. Leo got called out for faking logs and 3 mods all confirmed it. So that's that.

Next up: Why Leo felt the need to throw Mori under the bus behind closed doors to Ian because he still wanted to be friends with Mori, but still wanted her dragged. Because, ya know, that's what friends are for!
Hope you and johnreid made up, still rooting for you guys!
Codyabout 10 years ago
annabelle
Cody why do you even want to take that risk, are you willing to take all responsibility for whatever ethereal may do if you are wrong about their intentions?


Because if you are kudo to you, i wouldn't want that blood on my hands. same goes for arcbell tbh let's not lose sight of the fact that arcbell was also an awful choice.
I made the mistake of not considering the community's reaction to the people that I appointed, but I believe that the reasoning that I used to arrive at the decision at the time was solid and justifiable. It's somewhere in the 100+ page thread, but the main points are that they had both demonstrated the qualities that I want moderators working under me to have, a short list of which include: having time to dedicate, ability to make reasonable verdicts on reports (competence), teamwork, and a commitment to a vision of where I want the site to go.

One important aspect of this vision is that mods are not seen as "enemies of fun." I want to break down the "mods vs users" mentality that's been around on this site ever since I joined. There's a few concrete ideas I have as far as realizing this vision; I'll save posting them for another time.
deletedabout 10 years ago
This is mains attempt to get someone as big as equity so they have memes
deletedabout 10 years agoedited
i think we're all on the same page that ethereal did in fact lie and their pedophilia was not them trolling

and with that my work here is done, i don't care who mods the site even if it's petri, who wants to play battlesnakes
JeffreyAaronabout 10 years ago
Nah. Leo and Jeff ended. Leo got called out for faking logs and 3 mods all confirmed it. So that's that.

Next up: Why Leo felt the need to throw Mori under the bus behind closed doors to Ian because he still wanted to be friends with Mori, but still wanted her dragged. Because, ya know, that's what friends are for!
Sonrioabout 10 years ago
YOU STILL HAVENT BEATEN CHAPTER 10
lingabout 10 years ago
Kerry
pedo =/= predator

arcbell hasn't changed but sammie has reformed

also @bumpers, she feels very shameful about her past actions and i have no doubt if you spoke 1-1 she'd apologise to you personally
didnt sammie deny stuff that was brought up?
blankabout 10 years ago
Sonrio
hey jeff how about you shut up if you dont have anything interesting to say
be nice
leoabout 10 years ago
Kerry
pedo =/= predator

arcbell hasn't changed but sammie has reformed

also @bumpers, she feels very shameful about her past actions and i have no doubt if you spoke 1-1 she'd apologise to you personally
Cody still should have said something.
leoabout 10 years ago
Jeff, for the love of god, stop derailing this. I have no idea what you're talking about, and I don't want to know anyway.

Cody. Are you going to apologize?
Kerryabout 10 years agoedited
pedo =/= predator

arcbell hasn't changed but sammie has reformed

also @bumpers, she feels very shameful about her past actions and i have no doubt if you spoke 1-1 she'd apologise to you personally
Sonrioabout 10 years ago
CAN WE TIE A NOOSE AROUND PETRIS NECK OR AM I GOIG TO DO IT TO MYSELF
deletedabout 10 years ago
Someone keep track of the beefs going on here

So far there's:

Devante vs Tsugumi

Jeff vs Leo

who else is gonna step up to bat?
Devanteabout 10 years ago
Cody
Sorry I triggered you f*ckboy
There you go Leo
JeffreyAaronabout 10 years ago
Sonrio
hey jeff how about you shut up if you dont have anything interesting to say
love u
BearGuruabout 10 years ago
get a room, you two
JeffreyAaronabout 10 years ago
Leo, I think the child here was you when you sent 3 different mods fake logs of me saying I was going to "kill you". P.S: Your error was that all the logs had different timestamps and different wording because you didn't think through your lie enough. Bye!!!