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Question RE: Ethereal

almost 9 years

The question posed in this thread is not necessarily one of the moderation team, the site owner lucidrains/Phillip Wang, or other moderators/admins on the moderation team of this website.

People are calling for Ethereal's head because they were recently promoted from role moderator to moderator. The people calling for Ethereal to be demodded are generally viewing and accusing Ethereal as a predator.

My question is, if you guys care so much about Ethereal being a potential predator, should you not be arguing that Ethereal should be site banned? (Personally, I don't think Ethereal should be site banned. She has done her time for being banned and is currently a very big help for the moderators and cheating investigation team, in my opinion.) Your argument seems to not want to rid the website of possible predators, but to just make sure they don't become moderators. It doesn't really make much sense to me.

And even if Ethereal is demodded, guess what? She's still going to help with Cheating cases and finding banned users... nothing is going to change (except that she won't be able to do reports). Is that really going to be a sigh of relief for all of you?

So if Ethereal is demodded, what difference is it to you people if she's still allowed to be on the website...?

EDIT:

I am in favour of demodding Ethereal to please the community fwiw (I was before I even made this thread), but if we do that I don't really get why they are even allowed to be on the site anyways. I'm seeing these arguments I just don't agree with them; potential is potential at the end of the day, and I believe Ethereal should be allowed to stay on the site

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leo says

because doing a good job is an excuse for hunting children x3

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this is what happens when you let cheaters mod

i'm only partially joking, when mod selection was heavily scrutinized crap like this never happened. now we have all this petri drama and arcbell being a mod which still not enough people are talking about
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because doing a good job is an excuse for hunting children x3
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tldr but; there's absolutely no reason for ethereal to be demodded. Giga asks a perfect question when he mentions if we should be asking if ethereal should be site banned or not. The accusations of pedophilia or whatever are totally irrelevant to ethereals compotenece as a mod. Honestly demodding eth would be worsening the mod team
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Hibiki says


Matt12 says


Hibiki says

the only beef i ever had with matt12 was that i found him annoying and he's held it against me ever since


lmfao, lying tho but ok its cool


nah anything i ever said about you other than you being annoying was just to troll you


its all good
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ejaz says


Explanation says


ejaz says

its kinda silly to think that people only decided to bring all of this stuff up when the user became a moderator, but seemed to be perfectly ok with them using the site prior


petri just playing mafia as a regular user is one thing and petri representing as a site mod is another thing


if i knew someone was a pedo then i wouldnt want them on my website at all tbh


lucid gave the go-ahead to arcbell to unban her and it's his site so nothing could be done. lucid wasn't the one to mod her
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vilden says

Lookout: Pedophile on the loose.

Take extreme caution. Armed with mod protection.


good post
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ejaz says


Explanation says


ejaz says

its kinda silly to think that people only decided to bring all of this stuff up when the user became a moderator, but seemed to be perfectly ok with them using the site prior


petri just playing mafia as a regular user is one thing and petri representing as a site mod is another thing


if i knew someone was a pedo then i wouldnt want them on my website at all tbh


True wisdom. Ban minors first though
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Explanation says


ejaz says

its kinda silly to think that people only decided to bring all of this stuff up when the user became a moderator, but seemed to be perfectly ok with them using the site prior


petri just playing mafia as a regular user is one thing and petri representing as a site mod is another thing


if i knew someone was a pedo then i wouldnt want them on my website at all tbh
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Matt12 says


Hibiki says

the only beef i ever had with matt12 was that i found him annoying and he's held it against me ever since


lmfao, lying tho but ok its cool


nah anything i ever said about you other than you being annoying was just to troll you
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JimSpermWorm says

Solution: ban all the underage users


This is true wisdom
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Solution: ban all the underage users
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ejaz says

its kinda silly to think that people only decided to bring all of this stuff up when the user became a moderator, but seemed to be perfectly ok with them using the site prior


petri just playing mafia as a regular user is one thing and petri representing as a site mod is another thing
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Lookout: Pedophile on the loose.

Take extreme caution. Armed with mod protection.
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ejaz2m 19s+10
its kinda silly to think that people only decided to bring all of this stuff up when the user became a moderator, but seemed to be perfectly ok with them using the site prior

it wont let me quote but I didnt know it was them until today, I had heard about petri in sandbox and similarly to Hibiki didn't think anyone who had been so greatly outcasted would ever return to EM.
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Explanation says

someone said somewhere that petri had a great "work ethic" as one of the positive reasons to her being a mod. that might be true but if you were there back in the days you would know that petri would be reporting users for breaking rules whilst breaking the rules herself. who remembers the "Lookout thread" where petri would continuously post in it whilst being on the lookout thread herself.


OH MAN I REMEMBER THIS
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someone said somewhere that petri had a great "work ethic" as one of the positive reasons to her being a mod. that might be true but if you were there back in the days you would know that petri would be reporting users for breaking rules whilst breaking the rules herself. who remembers the "Lookout thread" where petri would continuously post in it whilst being on the lookout thread herself.
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Hibiki says

the only beef i ever had with matt12 was that i found him annoying and he's held it against me ever since


lmfao, lying tho but ok its cool
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i personally don't know why sammie still frequents this hellscape of a website
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its kinda silly to think that people only decided to bring all of this stuff up when the user became a moderator, but seemed to be perfectly ok with them using the site prior
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Sonrio says

Can someone tell me why the person in question wont come to the stand and explain herself? Like honestly we've gone two days and she posted in a thread about a driver bug


Nah, she has. She said her whole pedo phase was just a troll. Which of course is messed up in itself.
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its kinda crazy to think that someone would invest months of their own time in climbing the political ladder of epicmafiadotcom for a better vantage point to quench their pedophelic cravings
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BearGuru says

Sammie was a troll, she has reformed now. I don't care what you say beyond this, it is what I believe and you would have to provide *current* evidence to support your claim she is not reformed. Demodding her for this is pointless.


This is one of the dumbest things I have ever read.

Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE, who knew her at the time knows she wasn't trolling w/ her claim to being a pedophile. Nobody is arguing that Ethereal is still cheating.

Yeah, you know better than everyone else that Ethereal was trolling those three years, despite not being there and never interacting with her during that time at all.

There are things you know and things you cannot know. Know the difference.
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it's petri we're talking about, so yeah she would
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you think she'd waste her unban opportunity on something stupid like that omg lol