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Question RE: Ethereal

Giga13about 10 years ago

The question posed in this thread is not necessarily one of the moderation team, the site owner lucidrains/Phillip Wang, or other moderators/admins on the moderation team of this website.

People are calling for Ethereal's head because they were recently promoted from role moderator to moderator. The people calling for Ethereal to be demodded are generally viewing and accusing Ethereal as a predator.

My question is, if you guys care so much about Ethereal being a potential predator, should you not be arguing that Ethereal should be site banned? (Personally, I don't think Ethereal should be site banned. She has done her time for being banned and is currently a very big help for the moderators and cheating investigation team, in my opinion.) Your argument seems to not want to rid the website of possible predators, but to just make sure they don't become moderators. It doesn't really make much sense to me.

And even if Ethereal is demodded, guess what? She's still going to help with Cheating cases and finding banned users... nothing is going to change (except that she won't be able to do reports). Is that really going to be a sigh of relief for all of you?

So if Ethereal is demodded, what difference is it to you people if she's still allowed to be on the website...?

EDIT:

I am in favour of demodding Ethereal to please the community fwiw (I was before I even made this thread), but if we do that I don't really get why they are even allowed to be on the site anyways. I'm seeing these arguments I just don't agree with them; potential is potential at the end of the day, and I believe Ethereal should be allowed to stay on the site

Orionabout 10 years ago
aladrew
Golden
@aladrew read this http://pastebin.com/SkKgUWp3

it's a relic from the past
That is nothing to me, I want to know about Ethereal not arcbell unless your calling him a pedo as well
ok if u read it it says tho

Ethereal is petricigy

:"As well as all this, Petricigy's history:

- He has posted a link to a directory where child could be found.
- He had posted lolicon on the forums, I don't know whether the deleted user can be retrieved on this report to prove it was him https://epicmafia.com/report/34
- He caused chaos when he went onto a mod's account https://epicmafia.com/topic/45320
- Gamethrowing for SGR and against other runners during the vegetasmustache/gunsandroses when vegetas was revealed to be him"
deletedabout 10 years ago
Kerry
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Kerry
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Blister
My memory is a little fuzzy, but didn't arcbell get petri unbanned, or was that prevail, or both
if my memory serves me well yes and then immediately after petri was unbanned she posted p*rn under her Dustworth account but arcbell didn't reban her then just blamed it on WAK
that didn't happen, sammie was completely reformed by that time (even though i didn't realise it then)
hate to break it to ya but dustworth (petri account) was defo posting p*rn. WAK took the blame for pet bc he was a banned user anyway
again continuing to ignore..

abc posted the p*rn, actually
everyone blames abc sooner or later
Matt12about 10 years ago
Kerry, can you give me a timeline of when Sammie became reformed?

Was it a sudden shift in spirit or what
Kerryabout 10 years ago
arcbell had 100% proof it wasn't petri
Simsabout 10 years ago
demod arcbell
Hibikiabout 10 years ago
wow ok Ignored?????
IAmNotABCabout 10 years ago
Because ROLEMODS are there to catch cheaters. Not be moderators.

The role moderators to begin with is created with ex cheaters, banned users, predators and plain old dirtbags. The whole thing is so those guys to help society and fix their past mistakes.

Think of it as a prison.

But a prisoner should not become wardens.

I think whoever moded him is trash who does not know the fundamentals.
Kerryabout 10 years agoedited
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Kerry
Explanation
Blister
My memory is a little fuzzy, but didn't arcbell get petri unbanned, or was that prevail, or both
if my memory serves me well yes and then immediately after petri was unbanned she posted p*rn under her Dustworth account but arcbell didn't reban her then just blamed it on WAK
that didn't happen, sammie was completely reformed by that time (even though i didn't realise it then)
hate to break it to ya but dustworth (petri account) was defo posting p*rn. WAK took the blame for pet bc he was a banned user anyway
again continuing to ignore..

abc posted the p*rn, actually
Kerryabout 10 years ago
Giga13
denial
Giga13
denial
giga, i don't think anyone has accused her of being a predator btw.
many people have in the past day alone actually

denial
they just do not want to have to deal with the possibility that she could given her history

lets just say they were at one point a confirmed pedo and are no longer one: do you believe they should continue to be a moderator? if your answer is yes and can't see why people have a problem with it then that is the main issue

they don't have to be perma banned off the site unless they're actively 'hunting' for people to harass so please stop bringing this up as an argument for keeping them as a moderator because 'its the same thing if shes still on the site anyways'. you in fact have expressed that moderators should be held to a higher 'standard' and to some people that standard is never have been a pedo before
A mod-pedophile can PM a user.
A pedophile can PM a user.

Both of these things are true!

The potential is still there!!!!
moderators are held to a higher accountability than a random user.

that is the one sentence im going to say because apparently the point flew over your head since i wrote an essay
No it didn't, IF a moderator is a pedophile and they get demodded, guess what it still means they're a pedophile and they shouldn't be allowed to be on the site period
if someone wanted sammie site-banned they'd have to go to lucid and he'd just say he and you would have to contact the authorities
deletedabout 10 years ago
Kerry
Explanation
Blister
My memory is a little fuzzy, but didn't arcbell get petri unbanned, or was that prevail, or both
if my memory serves me well yes and then immediately after petri was unbanned she posted p*rn under her Dustworth account but arcbell didn't reban her then just blamed it on WAK
that didn't happen, sammie was completely reformed by that time (even though i didn't realise it then)
hate to break it to ya but dustworth (petri account) was defo posting p*rn. WAK took the blame for pet bc he was a banned user anyway
Giga13about 10 years agoedited
denial
Giga13
denial
giga, i don't think anyone has accused her of being a predator btw.
many people have in the past day alone actually

denial
they just do not want to have to deal with the possibility that she could given her history

lets just say they were at one point a confirmed pedo and are no longer one: do you believe they should continue to be a moderator? if your answer is yes and can't see why people have a problem with it then that is the main issue

they don't have to be perma banned off the site unless they're actively 'hunting' for people to harass so please stop bringing this up as an argument for keeping them as a moderator because 'its the same thing if shes still on the site anyways'. you in fact have expressed that moderators should be held to a higher 'standard' and to some people that standard is never have been a pedo before
A mod-pedophile can PM a user.
A pedophile can PM a user.

Both of these things are true!

The potential is still there!!!!
moderators are held to a higher accountability than a random user.

that is the one sentence im going to say because apparently the point flew over your head since i wrote an essay
No it didn't, IF a moderator is a pedophile and they get demodded, guess what it still means they're a pedophile and they shouldn't be allowed to be on the site period
deletedabout 10 years ago
Golden
@aladrew read this http://pastebin.com/SkKgUWp3

it's a relic from the past
That is nothing to me, I want to know about Ethereal not arcbell unless your calling him a pedo as well
leoabout 10 years ago
Giga13
leo
Giga13
I am in favour of demodding Ethereal to please the community fwiw, but if you do that I don't really get why they are even allowed to be on the site anyways. I'm seeing these arguments I just don't agree with them; potential is potential at the end of the day
and what do the admins say? /are/ you guys talking about it?
yes
the admins included, or only the mod team?
Kerryabout 10 years ago
Explanation
:-))
idk why you keep ignoring connors post/s
Giga13about 10 years ago
leo
Giga13
I am in favour of demodding Ethereal to please the community fwiw, but if you do that I don't really get why they are even allowed to be on the site anyways. I'm seeing these arguments I just don't agree with them; potential is potential at the end of the day
and what do the admins say? /are/ you guys talking about it?
yes
Kerryabout 10 years ago
Explanation
Blister
My memory is a little fuzzy, but didn't arcbell get petri unbanned, or was that prevail, or both
if my memory serves me well yes and then immediately after petri was unbanned she posted p*rn under her Dustworth account but arcbell didn't reban her then just blamed it on WAK
that didn't happen, sammie was completely reformed by that time (even though i didn't realise it then)
denialabout 10 years ago
Giga13
denial
giga, i don't think anyone has accused her of being a predator btw.
many people have in the past day alone actually

denial
they just do not want to have to deal with the possibility that she could given her history

lets just say they were at one point a confirmed pedo and are no longer one: do you believe they should continue to be a moderator? if your answer is yes and can't see why people have a problem with it then that is the main issue

they don't have to be perma banned off the site unless they're actively 'hunting' for people to harass so please stop bringing this up as an argument for keeping them as a moderator because 'its the same thing if shes still on the site anyways'. you in fact have expressed that moderators should be held to a higher 'standard' and to some people that standard is never have been a pedo before
A mod-pedophile can PM a user.
A pedophile can PM a user.

Both of these things are true!

The potential is still there!!!!
moderators are held to a higher accountability than a random user.

that is the one sentence im going to say because apparently the point flew over your head since i wrote an essay
deletedabout 10 years ago
:-))
Giga13about 10 years agoedited
AYYYYYYYY tay you're FINALLY back how are you
Edarkabout 10 years agoedited
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Edark
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Harrold
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both admins are post-2011 users that's kinda worrying
No one who has been on the website for less than 5 years is allowed to administrate it. Despicable.
agreed

also hi every1
are you aware that I still got you on snapchat?
hi YAAS
Your bae is cute, you managed to score girl!!!
deletedabout 10 years ago
Blister
My memory is a little fuzzy, but didn't arcbell get petri unbanned, or was that prevail, or both
if my memory serves me well yes and then immediately after petri was unbanned she posted p*rn under her Dustworth account but arcbell didn't reban her then just blamed it on WAK
Orionabout 10 years ago
@aladrew read this http://pastebin.com/SkKgUWp3

it's a relic from the past
deletedabout 10 years ago
Edark
Explanation
Harrold
Explanation
both admins are post-2011 users that's kinda worrying
No one who has been on the website for less than 5 years is allowed to administrate it. Despicable.
agreed

also hi every1
are you aware that I still got you on snapchat?
hi YAAS
leoabout 10 years ago
Giga13
I am in favour of demodding Ethereal to please the community fwiw, but if you do that I don't really get why they are even allowed to be on the site anyways. I'm seeing these arguments I just don't agree with them; potential is potential at the end of the day
and what do the admins say? /are/ you guys talking about it?
deletedabout 10 years ago
Right, Me. A person stumbling apon this thread wants to know, for everybody questioning it. Why is she a pedo, what did they do to be confirmed as this...