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Split the Lobbies

vilden
over 8 years

Comp is so bad right now, its actually just funny. Theres nothing else to it. It's simply funny how bad it is. I think its time you all realize this. The sooner you accept that, the quicker we can fix it. Because games are just s'hit. They are played like reds and no one cares about throws/meta abuse/ect anymore and these are suppose to be competitive games. Mods are forgiving 'bad play' reports more now than ever. I saw a gt alt with 18-50 record. it takes actual skill to reach that level as a gt alt and not be banned by now. He srsly must have some top tier main outplaying mods with dumbtells

I'm writing to request we split the lobbies: Competitive/Casual. We need a comp atmosphere to have a competition. Moderation of comp lobby should be harsher too. Trust me on this. Tables are so s'hit. Players have no clue what they're doing. Go with me here. I used to play competitive CPL cs1.6. Google 'vilden mage' and you'll find me. I know a casual game vs a competition. Merged lobbies ruined the comp aspect I used to rly enjoy

All you have to do now is ask lucid to do it. Keep asking until he does it.

Just do it.

Examples of a 'competitive' games in the current lobby

https://epicmafia.com/game/5306049/review game1

  • Watch town lose practical autowin

https://epicmafia.com/game/5307684/review game2

  • Watcher claims to lead on maf at day end
  • Froce and OohashiAkko overthrow him to lynch a town
  • They blame others in post game when they lose

There are so many terrible players like this that it isn't a competition it's like a r'etard magnet filled with trolls, gt'ers, and idiots. A lobby exclusive to comp players will intimidate players in such a way that they worry more about their own improvement and gameplay. When you have such a casual, s'hitty lobby, it facilitates players who arent playing to win or COMPETE as they should be

TL;DR - I explain why we need a comp lobby again.

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Cody
over 8 years
Before Sonseray left he was dead set on getting me to implement this. I've thought about it on and off for the last two months and I've still not come to a solid conclusion. There are merits to a competitive lobby. If we had 50+ comp players active nightly I would separate the lobbies in the blink of an eye and have competitive lobby be its own, more serious lobby, and would even have moderators (with more mafia experience) dedicated to handling reports from it.

The main problem, at the moment, is that we don't have enough dedicated mafia players around. Games are going to be filled by the same bad players that you are trying to dodge in main lobby because there's not going to be a way we can filter them (points doesn't work because anyone can farm points) and we can't just ban them from the lobby because they're bad players.

The problem that we should first focus on is transitioning the large amount of casual red heart players to competitive mafia and getting them to 1) learn the mechanics 2) be interested enough in playing competitively and 3) want to participate in the competitive community. Drafting up a plan that tackles those goals first would be what I would do if I were to seriously pursue the lobby separation idea.
vilden
over 8 years

ChilledOut says

I have an idea

Let's combine EVERY lobby into one

Main, Sandbox, Survivor, and all customs

It'll be great because we'll be one giant, loving, horrific family and everyone will be forced to be together


Lets not make these posts please
deletedover 8 years
Vilden at this point you have to be trolling the whole mod team because come on dude
vilden
over 8 years
Our moderators;


Gerry says

where is the thread where we put bad idea threads inside it


posts this to be upvoted by his friends; never even played comp lobby, and is just sheeping the community when he says "enjoy waiting for games to fill"

mist says

it's a casual game.


SJW former banned user, hasnt played competitive in months

Boo says

Hello,
A lot of players simply don't like the angry, abusive copy/pastes that follow after mishammers.
Some people want to play in a non-competitive environment and thats OK!


Proves why a lobby split would help; gets upvoted by Gerry who shows his total lack of knowledge

jack says


Retti says

you need to give up on the idea of mafia being in a competitive format, trust me


this is the key to a happier life


Jack is a casual, doesnt play comp, shouldnt be commenting as I say
deletedover 8 years
Don't touch Games lobby though

It's sacred
deletedover 8 years
I have an idea

Let's combine EVERY lobby into one

Main, Sandbox, Survivor, and all customs

It'll be great because we'll be one giant, loving, horrific family and everyone will be forced to be together
deletedover 8 years

thecolonel says


Retti says

yeah me being apart of a family like bad boyz which was one the biggest competitive families back in 2011 makes me a casual


This is a post which was made


i didnt say anything about the success, just pointing out i was a tryhard

i have one deleted bronze to show for my effort
deletedover 8 years
ROFL  
thecolonel
over 8 years

Retti says

yeah me being apart of a family like bad boyz which was one the biggest competitive families back in 2011 makes me a casual


This is a post which was made
Edark
over 8 years

Retti says

yeah me being apart of a family like bad boyz which was one the biggest competitive families back in 2011 makes me a casual


Salad tossers bruh
deletedover 8 years
i dont think you understand how many threads were filled with me and everyone else just complaining about our runs and circlejerking to 111 pages
vilden
over 8 years
you removed comp lobby, that's a good indicator
deletedover 8 years
yeah me being apart of a family like bad boyz which was one the biggest competitive families back in 2011 makes me a casual
deletedover 8 years
nobody thinks that vilden, they were scrutinized and told to go back to training, nobody actually wants to teach people how to get better
vilden
over 8 years
Retti, you feel smug because of all the support

but the people backing you are either casuals like yourself, or too new to comment, like Gerry
vilden
over 8 years

Retti says

vilden i dont think you understand that even if you split the lobbies there is nothing stopping training players from joining the competition, which are the type of people that were alienated/complained about

believe me i was there. im the loremaster while billstickers is away


that's not a problem. thats great when training players join in. they're in to learn
deletedover 8 years

apollo says


ChilledOut says

That makes sense

I meant to make a point that a lot of newer players aren't active in the community and have a smaller chance at becoming leaders throughout the site

I know everyone says "Oh ho ho everyone has an equal shot at modding" but, in general, most people are admined/modded when they're known by those already in place

If you think about it, the newer(ish) players aren't able to explore possibilities and concepts like when the site was new, and maybe they have good ideas

I wonder if there is a way to incorporate more new/fresh opinions from people you wouldn't normally hear from

I'm not really good at compiling my thoughts but I hope that makes half sense at least


You can't really blame people for choosing to work with people their more acquainted with, like you might be extremely intelligent but if you literally can't communicate with another person or "make friends" then there's no point cause you can't get your point across.

This site really can't get any more "fresh" tbf, like all the "freshness" has been squeezed out, atm it's probably as efficient as it can get.


I'm not saying it's wrong to work with people you know
I just meant that "it is what it is"

I don't know I'm just spitballing thoughts
thecolonel
over 8 years

jack says


vilden says

Hedger / annajane aren't comparable in the slightest. Anna downvoted my topic so I called her out on being unqualified to comment. If you're sensitive about that, then leave the discussion.




i'm just letting you know that having played in other lobbies is not a disqualifier of having an opinion towards competitive mafia


I think it's more like "your IQ must be above this line to comment"
deletedover 8 years

ChilledOut says

That makes sense

I meant to make a point that a lot of newer players aren't active in the community and have a smaller chance at becoming leaders throughout the site

I know everyone says "Oh ho ho everyone has an equal shot at modding" but, in general, most people are admined/modded when they're known by those already in place

If you think about it, the newer(ish) players aren't able to explore possibilities and concepts like when the site was new, and maybe they have good ideas

I wonder if there is a way to incorporate more new/fresh opinions from people you wouldn't normally hear from

I'm not really good at compiling my thoughts but I hope that makes half sense at least


You can't really blame people for choosing to work with people their more acquainted with, like you might be extremely intelligent but if you literally can't communicate with another person or "make friends" then there's no point cause you can't get your point across.

This site really can't get any more "fresh" tbf, like all the "freshness" has been squeezed out, atm it's probably as efficient as it can get.
jack
over 8 years

vilden says

Hedger / annajane aren't comparable in the slightest. Anna downvoted my topic so I called her out on being unqualified to comment. If you're sensitive about that, then leave the discussion.




i'm just letting you know that having played in other lobbies is not a disqualifier of having an opinion towards competitive mafia
deletedover 8 years
vilden i dont think you understand that even if you split the lobbies there is nothing stopping training players from joining the competition, which are the type of people that were alienated/complained about

believe me i was there. im the loremaster while billstickers is away
deletedover 8 years
That makes sense

I meant to make a point that a lot of newer players aren't active in the community and have a smaller chance at becoming leaders throughout the site

I know everyone says "Oh ho ho everyone has an equal shot at modding" but, in general, most people are admined/modded when they're known by those already in place

If you think about it, the newer(ish) players aren't able to explore possibilities and concepts like when the site was new, and maybe they have good ideas

I wonder if there is a way to incorporate more new/fresh opinions from people you wouldn't normally hear from

I'm not really good at compiling my thoughts but I hope that makes half sense at least
vilden
over 8 years
Hedger / annajane aren't comparable in the slightest. Anna downvoted my topic so I called her out on being unqualified to comment. If you're sensitive about that, then leave the discussion.
deletedover 8 years
i mean if you wanna try knock yourself out but when this exact thread is being made and people are complaining about how competition is still horrible don't say i didn't tell you so
TitorJhon
over 8 years
Old comp lobby was the best.
I trophied in fancy pants.