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Split the Lobbies

vilden
over 8 years

Comp is so bad right now, its actually just funny. Theres nothing else to it. It's simply funny how bad it is. I think its time you all realize this. The sooner you accept that, the quicker we can fix it. Because games are just s'hit. They are played like reds and no one cares about throws/meta abuse/ect anymore and these are suppose to be competitive games. Mods are forgiving 'bad play' reports more now than ever. I saw a gt alt with 18-50 record. it takes actual skill to reach that level as a gt alt and not be banned by now. He srsly must have some top tier main outplaying mods with dumbtells

I'm writing to request we split the lobbies: Competitive/Casual. We need a comp atmosphere to have a competition. Moderation of comp lobby should be harsher too. Trust me on this. Tables are so s'hit. Players have no clue what they're doing. Go with me here. I used to play competitive CPL cs1.6. Google 'vilden mage' and you'll find me. I know a casual game vs a competition. Merged lobbies ruined the comp aspect I used to rly enjoy

All you have to do now is ask lucid to do it. Keep asking until he does it.

Just do it.

Examples of a 'competitive' games in the current lobby

https://epicmafia.com/game/5306049/review game1

  • Watch town lose practical autowin

https://epicmafia.com/game/5307684/review game2

  • Watcher claims to lead on maf at day end
  • Froce and OohashiAkko overthrow him to lynch a town
  • They blame others in post game when they lose

There are so many terrible players like this that it isn't a competition it's like a r'etard magnet filled with trolls, gt'ers, and idiots. A lobby exclusive to comp players will intimidate players in such a way that they worry more about their own improvement and gameplay. When you have such a casual, s'hitty lobby, it facilitates players who arent playing to win or COMPETE as they should be

TL;DR - I explain why we need a comp lobby again.

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Edark
over 8 years

Boo says

competitive isnt even pinned anymo, so you can technically see it as "custom"

i really doubt lucid will take away a custom lobby from someone w/o good reason


But if Im a new user I will only see Main Sandbox and Games by default right?
vilden
over 8 years

jack says

doesn't calling out all the people that don't play comp inherently prove that splitting the lobbies is a bad idea due to the limited number of competitive players?


Lots of people play comp. Only the ones who play survivor and moderate hateful comments are the ones with presence in here
athena
over 8 years

Retti says

i just find it really hilarious that vilden is calling the mods casual or anyone who doesn't coincide with his opinions

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competitive isnt even pinned anymo, so you can technically see it as "custom"

i really doubt lucid will take away a custom lobby from someone w/o good reason
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i just find it really hilarious that vilden is calling the mods casual or anyone who doesn't coincide with his opinions
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Cody says

Being more welcoming towards new players and not ostracizing them for making mistakes would be one way to start retaining fresh competitive players. I've been personally guilty of spam copy-pasting a line that I prepared in the graveyard for "that idiot clear" who lynched me despite me being "obvious town." This kind of behavior makes people afraid to play more with me because they'll be afraid of getting yelled at or belittled for their mistakes.


The only thing I want to say about this is that the game of mafia is not calm all of the time

It's very important for people to use their emotions to try to win too, and new players should realize that

Not everyone is going to play nicely, but that's part of the game

The important part is post-game, not "copy paste lines" in the middle of one
Edark
over 8 years

Boo says

vilden you really only need to appeal to bumpers

if they decided to re-enable the competition in their lobby and allow public access, then the mods cant do anything about it


I could just ask lucid to stop it lol

Besides would it be a pinned lobby?
vilden
over 8 years
Rutab, I know plenty who think a lobby split shouldve happened already. I doubt they'll post support though
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spoiler:


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Boo says

vilden you really only need to appeal to bumpers

if they decided to re-enable the competition in their lobby and allow public access, then the mods cant do anything about it


i have bumpers on steam and i already can tell you the answer he will give
athena
over 8 years

vilden says

Gerry/anna upvoting edark without any experience whatsoever to judge or agree with him. You know I have to call you guys out on it


jack
over 8 years
doesn't calling out all the people that don't play comp inherently prove that splitting the lobbies is a bad idea due to the limited number of competitive players?
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Only about 25% of the players online in Main Lobby alone are playing competitive at this very second

I understand this is a quick statistic and I don't have any more samples but it's still a big teller imo
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vilden you really only need to appeal to bumpers

if they decided to re-enable the competition in their lobby and allow public access, then the mods cant do anything about it
Edark
over 8 years

vilden says


Edark says

Comp will die/lose a lot of players if we split, so it aint happening


you're basing this on how the site was like 2 years ago and is total conjecture. it could also go the opposite way


Its stupid to try the same thing over and over again and expect a different result when nothing actually has changed to suggest that people would be more interested in competitive play(if anything its the opposite).

Instead we should focus on actually getting players wanting to play serious competitve games.
Cody
over 8 years
Being more welcoming towards new players and not ostracizing them for making mistakes would be one way to start retaining fresh competitive players. I've been personally guilty of spam copy-pasting a line that I prepared in the graveyard for "that idiot clear" who lynched me despite me being "obvious town." This kind of behavior makes people afraid to play more with me because they'll be afraid of getting yelled at or belittled for their mistakes.
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Right now there are about 50 people playing in main lobby, and they're split between Fancy Pants, other red hearts, private games, and 2 comp games

That's not a lot
vilden
over 8 years
Gerry/anna upvoting edark without any experience whatsoever to judge or agree with him. You know I have to call you guys out on it
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vilden says


Edark says

Comp will die/lose a lot of players if we split, so it aint happening


you're basing this on how the site was like 2 years ago and is total conjecture. it could also go the opposite way


the community as a whole is smaller now
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vilden says


ChilledOut says

Vilden at this point you have to be trolling the whole mod team because come on dude


I'm 100% serious, rofl. You act like splitting the lobby is some big deal when really its what comp players want. Do you even play anymore


No, I don't, but I'd like you to find "what comp players want" that isn't Shrub (the only one to sign your petition) in the last 7 pages

I don't know how you magically know what every comp player wants, especially if they're all new, and as you stated above "Being too new invalidates opinion"
vilden
over 8 years

Edark says

Comp will die/lose a lot of players if we split, so it aint happening


you're basing this on how the site was like 2 years ago and is total conjecture. it could also go the opposite way
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Cody is a smart man

His solution/suggestion isn't wrong, but it's been said so many times and no one has found an effective method for #2 or #3
vilden
over 8 years

ChilledOut says

Vilden at this point you have to be trolling the whole mod team because come on dude


I'm 100% serious, rofl. You act like splitting the lobby is some big deal when really its what comp players want. Do you even play anymore
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Edark says

Comp will die/lose a lot of players if we split, so it aint happening


I said this 5 pages ago
Edark
over 8 years
Comp will die/lose a lot of players if we split, so it aint happening