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Split the Lobbies

vilden
over 8 years

Comp is so bad right now, its actually just funny. Theres nothing else to it. It's simply funny how bad it is. I think its time you all realize this. The sooner you accept that, the quicker we can fix it. Because games are just s'hit. They are played like reds and no one cares about throws/meta abuse/ect anymore and these are suppose to be competitive games. Mods are forgiving 'bad play' reports more now than ever. I saw a gt alt with 18-50 record. it takes actual skill to reach that level as a gt alt and not be banned by now. He srsly must have some top tier main outplaying mods with dumbtells

I'm writing to request we split the lobbies: Competitive/Casual. We need a comp atmosphere to have a competition. Moderation of comp lobby should be harsher too. Trust me on this. Tables are so s'hit. Players have no clue what they're doing. Go with me here. I used to play competitive CPL cs1.6. Google 'vilden mage' and you'll find me. I know a casual game vs a competition. Merged lobbies ruined the comp aspect I used to rly enjoy

All you have to do now is ask lucid to do it. Keep asking until he does it.

Just do it.

Examples of a 'competitive' games in the current lobby

https://epicmafia.com/game/5306049/review game1

  • Watch town lose practical autowin

https://epicmafia.com/game/5307684/review game2

  • Watcher claims to lead on maf at day end
  • Froce and OohashiAkko overthrow him to lynch a town
  • They blame others in post game when they lose

There are so many terrible players like this that it isn't a competition it's like a r'etard magnet filled with trolls, gt'ers, and idiots. A lobby exclusive to comp players will intimidate players in such a way that they worry more about their own improvement and gameplay. When you have such a casual, s'hitty lobby, it facilitates players who arent playing to win or COMPETE as they should be

TL;DR - I explain why we need a comp lobby again.

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vilden
over 8 years
Gerry you took my example literally man. The point is a comp lobby will definitely bring back people and boost in popularity (stronger competition and more fun)
deletedover 8 years
this is a social website before a mafia site, therefore this will never happen
deletedover 8 years
On a more serious note...if you want to revive competitive, you can help by providing competitive mafia guides & tutorials (which isn't an ungodly blob of text on a forum thread). A new lobby might bring back some old-timers out of nostalgia, but it's a short-term solution lol

Some players simply don't see "scumhunting" as anything more than the exchange of cop reports. To pique their interest, you need to show them that theres much more to the game
deletedover 8 years
there's more actually
debaser
over 8 years
the site's too empty now for a lobby split there's like half the comp players there were a year ago and they were very few back then even
deletedover 8 years
tatami believes that it is a terrible idea, he is an extremist
vilden
over 8 years
I've refuted everything, how is it beating a dead horse lol
deletedover 8 years
in other words it is not a good idea, it isn't a terrible idea, just not a good one.
vilden
over 8 years

Boo says

Hello,

Fancy pants specialist chiming in here.

A lot of players simply don't like the angry, abusive copy/pastes that follow after mishammers.

Some people want to play in a non-competitive environment and thats OK!


This is a good reason why we should split lobbies. Jeff is a good player who'd play in comp and spam his copy/pastes. So "a lot of players" who dont like that spam will be in casual lobby away from it
deletedover 8 years
no point beating a dead horse tbh
Gerry
over 8 years

vilden says


Gerry says


vilden says


Gerry says

where is the thread where we put bad idea threads inside it


Coming from a man who wasn't even around during comp lobby rofl. Sheep your circlejerk harder


who am i circlejerking with? and it's an obvious bad idea. comp games would take ages to fill, doesn't take rocket science to figure that out


I played during comp lobby. I filled tables very easily. You are sheeping your friends and know nothing. I think its possible that a comp lobby boosts in popularity just like players come back to play A&D


wow those 2 players that come back to play 5 hearts of A&D are really gonna make a difference.
Tatami
over 8 years
Like I get how you can think the Trump jokes and my first page posts were patronizing, but the last one was just straight up asking "Why should we believe X when we've seen Y?"
vilden
over 8 years

Gerry says


vilden says


Gerry says

where is the thread where we put bad idea threads inside it


Coming from a man who wasn't even around during comp lobby rofl. Sheep your circlejerk harder


who am i circlejerking with? and it's an obvious bad idea. comp games would take ages to fill, doesn't take rocket science to figure that out


I played during comp lobby. I filled tables very easily. You are sheeping your friends and know nothing. I think its possible that a comp lobby boosts in popularity just like players come back to play A&D
Tatami
over 8 years

vilden says

Tatami, stop patronizing bro


You asked for my reasoning. I gave it.

I posed a lot of simple questions in my last post that if answered will give a very strong case for why we should merge the lobbies. Asking "Why should we believe you?" is not patronizing when you're trying to sell us on something that affects the entire site. If anything, telling us "just trust me on this" is patronizing.
deletedover 8 years
Hello,

Fancy pants specialist chiming in here.

A lot of players simply don't like the angry, abusive copy/pastes that follow after mishammers.

Some people want to play in a non-competitive environment and thats OK!
denial
over 8 years
vilden, having a comp lobby is just never gonna do anything because games arent based off ranking and you don't do a climb toward being better (so that it becomes a competition of who is the best between the players playing)

rounds aren't set competitively so you can't really have a competitive atmosphere

just live the casual life
Gerry
over 8 years

vilden says


Gerry says

where is the thread where we put bad idea threads inside it


Coming from a man who wasn't even around during comp lobby rofl. Sheep your circlejerk harder


who am i circlejerking with? and it's an obvious bad idea. comp games would take ages to fill, doesn't take rocket science to figure that out
Tatami
over 8 years
The point of making mistakes and learning lessons is not to forget about them in a few years as being obsolete by time.

Sometimes there are valid reasons to believe time has changed, that the lessons learned are no longer true, that maybe we'll have better luck in Afghanistan than the Soviets did.

This is not one of those times.
vilden
over 8 years

Gerry says

where is the thread where we put bad idea threads inside it


Coming from a man who wasn't even around during comp lobby rofl. Sheep your circlejerk harder
vilden
over 8 years
Tatami, stop patronizing bro
expose
over 8 years
https://epicmafia.com/lobby#?id=3
Tatami
over 8 years

vilden says

I'm saying we need to separate 'casual' play (ppl who troll/gt/throw for friends) and 'serious' play


The point is that this is a necessary transition in order to rope in new players. It leads to people taking it less seriously, yes, unfortunately-and I'm the first to complain about people not taking games seriously. I take it more seriously than anyone else.

Doing so was the original idea of the split, and it straight up did not work.

vilden says

enough time has passed where we can't predict how active it'll be. There are also ways to promote the competitive lobby and make players see it as a feat. this is just you're prediction based on a site way back then


Why should we believe this one to be different? Players were encouraged to join comp in every way you can think of to no real avail. People were encouraged to play more seriously in training in every way you can think of to no real avail.

You say "This time might be different," but why should we believe that? We have the exact same setup, and the few pointers that might tip it in the right direction are going the reverse way (% of players who play gold hearts is down from the original split, for instance)
vilden
over 8 years

Vedd says

I don't understand how you playing competitive counter strike relates here, but splitting the lobbies is going to kill the competition m8


It relates because I want ppl to understand I know that what distinguishes casual and competitive. what we have right now is casual, s'hitty r'etarded competitions where players are still hipfiring and blowing town autowins
denial
over 8 years

Gerry says

where is the thread where we put bad idea threads inside it


do you mean the one devante made with when people suggest the same ideas

edit: ya u did, but im just gonna not delete my message
Gerry
over 8 years
found it https://epicmafia.com/topic/74523