theres an inherent level of randomness associated with night 1 that cant be avoided. bomb can remove players n1 but they come with the cost of a town clear. its a much different thing than guns are.
ban the mafia as they can remove a player from the game with a random click.
ban all n1 setups.
They can't kill them considering cop can be CC'd. Regardless, stuff like that is exactly as dumb as how all your reasons to ban guns sounds to me.
a cop can automatically learn a mafia member with just the click of the mouse. ban cop.
That's exactly what they do, actually. It just so happens that it's a random click or the mouse, which is even worse IMO. N1 at least
bombs and oracle aren't able to remove players from the game with the click of a mouse.
I just feel like guns are in no way more "uncompetitive" than night start setups, bomb or oracle, or whatever
but thats another issue, i guess.
imo competitive setups should be more or less restricted to only competitive roles and setups while red hearts should be allowed to be used however, but since mods have a field day banning setups from redheart games left and right that can't be.
Alternatively, as a way to get out of a claim you realized was dumb by claiming vented
Btw whoever uses vent to claim or something is dumb. You're supposed to just say natural things that no one would even question or talk about later but seem scummy.
An "okay" at the very start of the day is perfect most of the times.
vent does not impede speech. the vent quote bug was removed, vent can self-quote/quote vents
kill all third party roles
Not every third party role should be given the same sort of treatment.
I hope you guys realize that guns aren't the source of the problem
Also foodlion, you're the only person that I know without a grudge against third parties, almost
i played hollywood illusions one time and ill regret it for the rest of my mafia life.
I made Yin Yang Chaos and I think guns should be banned from competitive.
Yin Yang Chaos is an example of a good setup with a gun.
hollywood illusions is an example of a good setup with a gun
there are ways to create diversity without something as uncompetitive as guns, im not against more 3rd party setups being comped if theyre not stupid roles.
I'm glad you think so shivv. But that's exactly the way epicmafia has always been marketed
im still waiting to be linked that non-awful gun setup also.
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