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Ban guns from competitive

deletedalmost 11 years

can we do this? gunsmith has been around for years and there has never been an objectively good gun setup, and thats because guns are horrible for competitive. Giving one person the ability to remove another from the game is a terrible idea for competitions and is ridiculously easy to throw games/troll with. Yeah, guns are fun but fun has never been the #1 priority for the competition and variety has never been a factor when deciding to ban the dozens of roles and setups that arent allowed to be made competitive.

deletedalmost 11 years
You'll take my guns from my cold dead hands Obama
Giga13
almost 11 years
Personally, I don't dislike or like gun setups but I rather dislike/like how they get used in games

If someone makes a clutch shot then I love it, if someone throws with it then I don't. It's the same kind of idea as someone lynching with hammer after selfvotes really
Giga13
almost 11 years
Guns are fun but really in competitive play they cause a lot of trouble in regards to rule breaking/line walking

I wouldn't ban them from the competition though, a lot of setups that get comped have them and they're popular in the competition. Some people are drawn to the competition because of gun setups, and there are some setups in which a gun is effective.

As a side note: Banning guns from competitive would be really stupid if third parties are still allowed
FireDagger
almost 11 years
A round without a gun setup would be nice. People tend to play gun games a lot for some reason. It does not really affect competition but it would be worth to try a round with more scumhuting oriented setups and no guns.
deletedalmost 11 years
Haha taht was a game for the ages: grit, determination & whatnot.
Zeus
almost 11 years
Same. That way the cop doesn't roleswap with mafia and I won't gun said mafia.
deletedalmost 11 years
Agreed.
deletedalmost 11 years
that just means its time to nip it before guns become popular again and nothing can change because too many people become upset, ie the classic mafia dilemma
Renaldo
almost 11 years
Exactly. It matters a lot less since Main's competition gets more traffic than comp lobby did, where only one setup filled regularly.
deletedalmost 11 years
Why ban it completely, I mean people like playing gun setups and If they don't, then they don't have to. It's not like every setup being comped has a gun in it.
Renaldo
almost 11 years
Alternatively, shame all people who like gun setups until they feel bad enough to not like them anymore.
Renaldo
almost 11 years

FoodLion says

at the very least, ban guns from the competition for next round only and see what happens?


There was a pretty good stretch about a month or so ago where there were no comped gun setups. It happens by chance. I think the best solution would be just to host tables of non-gun setups if you don't like them. Since Main's inception, if there's a gun setup, usually it'll have a similar amount of plays to non-gun setups, much like this round. Gone are the days where only guns dominate, or so I hope.
AdrenalineMime
almost 11 years
you can't refuse my right to bear arms
Jaleb
almost 11 years

Sidekick says

Guns are meant to be the towns mislynch in certain setups and are fine in theory at least.


You don't need a gun in 163 though
deletedalmost 11 years
at the very least, ban guns from the competition for next round only and see what happens?
deletedalmost 11 years

badplayersorry says

Quote "Giving one person the ability to remove another from the game is a terrible idea" Unquote. Um hello? do you want to ban the mafia?


thats different since mafia are very limited in when they can remove players from the game compared to gunned players
Sidekick
almost 11 years
Guns are meant to be the towns mislynch in certain setups and are fine in theory at least.
badplayersorry
almost 11 years
Quote "Giving one person the ability to remove another from the game is a terrible idea" Unquote. Um hello? do you want to ban the mafia?
BlackBattler
almost 11 years
vigs are really fun but since em's vig is butt********** we have to use the give-a-vig gunsmith and here we are.
deletedalmost 11 years
what shacky said
Sims
almost 11 years
is gunsmith even that big of a deal anymore? just don't play setups with it. the top 3 players so far this round ran on b2ns.
Jaleb
almost 11 years
Sadly we've been begging for this for months/years
deletedalmost 11 years
God please do this. The temptation of guns is simply too much to handle for the lowest common denominator, and a gun setup can never be competitive worthy because of this