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Regarding mw295 & OGI

over 10 years

After careful deliberation, we have decided to unsuspend mw295 from Round 206. This is a pastebin prepared by Retti explaining why: http://pastebin.com/PstSmdJc

To clarify what happened, last night I had unpaused the round and suspended him for meta abusing throughout the round, based off the bin caroline had posted and the screenshots Emmerr had taken of his gameplay, which I found to be very unaccpetable and suspension worthy.

However, after I went to sleep, Retti was approached with a pastebin that concluded that the games shown in this report (https://epicmafia.com/report/104355) were from last round and not indicative of his play throughout this round. I had gone to sleep, so Retti took over and paused the round to take more time to look at this bin and to take more time to mull over the details and whether this was the right call.

He concluded by looking through his games and noting where he had outwardly stated this meta and most oftentimes, since being warned by myself and his mentor, Anthony, about his playstyle, he did make a conscious effort to change.

Although there are aspects of mw295's gameplay that are borderline OGI, Retti's comments about ATE is true and it is difficult to prove how much of an advantage he gleaned throughout his run as a result of this meta, which was not clearly stated anywhere, but only widely known. There are instances throughout his run where he "uses ATE" as mafia, and instances where he ATE'd as town and was lynched anyway. Thus, it is difficult to discern how great of an advantage he received from this meta.

That said, moving forward, we are going to be taking stricter measures against OGI and how they impact players' runs. mw295's play had previously been full of OGI, so the violation will stay, but there isn't enough here to disqualify him from the round as most of what was reported was in fact from the previous round where he got 4th.

If this sort of clearly stated honest meta shows up again in excess anyone's run, they will be looked into and disqualified via OGI. There is not enough indicating mw abused meta to his advantage during this run, and it's clear from looking through the games more closely, that he abandoned clearly stating his meta every game, and broke it a few times. He did not explicitly state his meta and stick to it throughout the round.

I would like to apologize for the confusion regarding the round's end and would like to thank Retti for stepping up and making sure that we made the right call.

Please read through the pastebin linked above for more details. Thank you.

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Also what side is Pranay on and I will tear that side down
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mw295
minxy you're hurting me right here -> heart

^ an appeal to emotion to his friend that he is hurt that she did not townread him last game
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OK what's the verdict
over 10 years
retti going against the entire mod teams understanding and then changing their understanding.


retti blatantly helping his friend get a trophy


kerry blatantly admitting to cheating
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Retti says

....There are different kinds of AtE, caro.


that definitely wasn't ate
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Ah appeal to emotion thanks carolineee
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....There are different kinds of AtE, caro.
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did he or did he not refuse to appeal to emotions as mafia
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mw was not appealing to anyone's emotions there. appealing to someones emotions is MAKING THEM FEEL BAD FOR FOSING YOU
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What does ate stand for
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Empire leave him alone
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Jill says


carolineeee says


Retti says

mw ated as mafia too


besides that ONE game did he ate as maf


which proves his "honest meta" of only ateing as town incorrect? so? ? ? ????


did you read the n2 of that game he raged at his partner and said "i ated as maf and i never ate as maf" "i real ated cause i was so mad at you" etc
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carolineeee says


Retti says


carolineeee says


Retti says

mw ated as mafia too


no where in your pastebin shows any evidence of this besides that ONE game did he ate as maf

because there is no ate in this game https://epicmafia.com/game/3218472 at all


mw295
I'M TOO BUSY CHECKING OUT DA CUTE GIRLS TO KNOW SETUP

How is this not AtE? He is appealing to the emotion that he doesn't care enough to look at the setup because he is distracted by 'cute girls' as a means as to why he's being lazy.

mw295
wb bad
mw295
back
mw295
lol that made no sense
mw295
plz don't call me out on that

How is this not AtE? MW is appealing to a player right now that his argument is wrong because it doesn't make sense.

Would you like me to go further?



that is not AtE at all


define it then because im pretty sure he is appealing to some certain emotion that a town member is feeling right now regarding him
over 10 years
lmao retti is grasping on straws right now. he is picking up everything and saying that it is ate. lmao. that is not at all ate.


you are the most biased mod ever


that does not count as ate at all

that counts as isp.

everything is related to playing with the mind of other players.

that does not mean it is all ate

also he never used the argument of "i am town because i am ateing" as mafia.

that is why everybody bought his ate as town
over 10 years

Edark says

I think pranay got *** disorder tbh


i think its paranoid schizophrenia to be frank
over 10 years

carolineeee says


Retti says

mw ated as mafia too


besides that ONE game did he ate as maf


which proves his "honest meta" of only ateing as town incorrect? so? ? ? ????
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Retti says


carolineeee says


Retti says

mw ated as mafia too


no where in your pastebin shows any evidence of this besides that ONE game did he ate as maf

because there is no ate in this game https://epicmafia.com/game/3218472 at all


mw295
I'M TOO BUSY CHECKING OUT DA CUTE GIRLS TO KNOW SETUP

How is this not AtE? He is appealing to the emotion that he doesn't care enough to look at the setup because he is distracted by 'cute girls' as a means as to why he's being lazy.

mw295
wb bad
mw295
back
mw295
lol that made no sense
mw295
plz don't call me out on that

How is this not AtE? MW is appealing to a player right now that his argument is wrong because it doesn't make sense.

Would you like me to go further?



that is not AtE at all
over 10 years
I think pranay got *** disorder tbh
over 10 years

pranay7744 says

well it just looks like that retti ( a friend of connor, who has helped him several times before) and kerry and connor and mw are all in the same group and they always look out for each other.


hahahhahaa jesus christ
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like recently your posts have been borderline insane
over 10 years
@kerry-- that stands only for you. why are people lynched when they ate then????????????? kerry you feel guilty as maf because you have cheating instincts
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carolineeee says


Retti says

mw ated as mafia too


no where in your pastebin shows any evidence of this besides that ONE game did he ate as maf

because there is no ate in this game https://epicmafia.com/game/3218472 at all


mw295
I'M TOO BUSY CHECKING OUT DA CUTE GIRLS TO KNOW SETUP

How is this not AtE? He is appealing to the emotion that he doesn't care enough to look at the setup because he is distracted by 'cute girls' as a means as to why he's being lazy.

mw295
wb bad
mw295
back
mw295
lol that made no sense
mw295
plz don't call me out on that

How is this not AtE? MW is appealing to a player right now that his argument is wrong because it doesn't make sense.

Would you like me to go further?
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pranay7744 says

well it just looks like that retti ( a friend of connor, who has helped him several times before) and kerry and connor and mw are all in the same group and they always look out for each other.


youre literally crazy holy ***
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As I said before regardless of whether or not mw was eventually unsuspended the entire handling of this was embarrassing, with someone messing up massively, which we now know is both.

Mod business as usual+Retti being Retti I suppose.
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bronto pls close thread