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Regarding mw295 & OGI

over 10 years

After careful deliberation, we have decided to unsuspend mw295 from Round 206. This is a pastebin prepared by Retti explaining why: http://pastebin.com/PstSmdJc

To clarify what happened, last night I had unpaused the round and suspended him for meta abusing throughout the round, based off the bin caroline had posted and the screenshots Emmerr had taken of his gameplay, which I found to be very unaccpetable and suspension worthy.

However, after I went to sleep, Retti was approached with a pastebin that concluded that the games shown in this report (https://epicmafia.com/report/104355) were from last round and not indicative of his play throughout this round. I had gone to sleep, so Retti took over and paused the round to take more time to look at this bin and to take more time to mull over the details and whether this was the right call.

He concluded by looking through his games and noting where he had outwardly stated this meta and most oftentimes, since being warned by myself and his mentor, Anthony, about his playstyle, he did make a conscious effort to change.

Although there are aspects of mw295's gameplay that are borderline OGI, Retti's comments about ATE is true and it is difficult to prove how much of an advantage he gleaned throughout his run as a result of this meta, which was not clearly stated anywhere, but only widely known. There are instances throughout his run where he "uses ATE" as mafia, and instances where he ATE'd as town and was lynched anyway. Thus, it is difficult to discern how great of an advantage he received from this meta.

That said, moving forward, we are going to be taking stricter measures against OGI and how they impact players' runs. mw295's play had previously been full of OGI, so the violation will stay, but there isn't enough here to disqualify him from the round as most of what was reported was in fact from the previous round where he got 4th.

If this sort of clearly stated honest meta shows up again in excess anyone's run, they will be looked into and disqualified via OGI. There is not enough indicating mw abused meta to his advantage during this run, and it's clear from looking through the games more closely, that he abandoned clearly stating his meta every game, and broke it a few times. He did not explicitly state his meta and stick to it throughout the round.

I would like to apologize for the confusion regarding the round's end and would like to thank Retti for stepping up and making sure that we made the right call.

Please read through the pastebin linked above for more details. Thank you.

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ok this thread is done.
over 10 years
and bronto is a classic example of a school passout

-- hey that sounds right, i will stick to that no matter what

-- then someone explains him some things

-- then he goes "' he that sounds right, i will stick to it no matter what"
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Love says

caroline pounces at the first sign of verbal abuse towards me because her wounds are still fresh from every time she got murked


i haven't said anything rude about you itt :3
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caroline pounces at the first sign of verbal abuse towards me because her wounds are still fresh from every time she got murked
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Retti says

we're looking literally to lambast a poor guy who maybe isn't the sharpest tool in the shed because he has to rely on AtE to win town games and the people who managed to play with him when he was scum didn't catch onto this and let him win 10 scum games too, even with he incorporated some AtE in those times he was mafia too.

that's not fair

im done arguing this


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Edark says

Why dont you post a few more pics in the pics please thread, maybe finally someone who isnt doing it to be nice will call you goodlooking


lmfao omg
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did i hit a cord
over 10 years
i was stupid in the first place to believe that retti will not be biased again. i thought he will do a better job this time. but he didnt change a bit.
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no i was actually just trying to troll you but you seem kind of salty right now bro :-/
over 10 years
Why dont you post a few more pics in the pics please thread, maybe finally someone who isnt doing it to be nice will call you goodlooking
over 10 years
hey everybody remembers love + retti + dave in that round. they did the same thing mw did. and retti was there to help data then.
over 10 years

Love says

because you helped kassa cheat and nobody likes you


lmao, caught being stupid as hell and then tries to flip your hair like you care huh?
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everyone running next round should only ate as town it is the key to winning trophies ~
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because you helped kassa cheat and nobody likes you
over 10 years
I have no clue what kind of stunts the dude is pulling and whether or not it's meta abuse but the responses in this thread from both sides are hilarious
over 10 years
the way i play is absolutely fine. you cant suspend me for anything. i break no rules. on the other hand you break rules all the time.
over 10 years

Love says

if you intentionally try to do it you're gonna get banned


Why would I? faking dumbtells isnt illegal nor is AtE.
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i actually agree with caroline for once
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yeah that really isnt
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Edark says

man Imma get an alt and dumbtell/AtE heavily + caps and win myself a trophy too


this is a good idea just make sure you use very subtle ate as mafia since you don't real ate as mafia
over 10 years

Retti says


carolineeee says


Retti says


carolineeee says


Retti says

mw ated as mafia too


no where in your pastebin shows any evidence of this besides that ONE game did he ate as maf

because there is no ate in this game https://epicmafia.com/game/3218472 at all


mw295
I'M TOO BUSY CHECKING OUT DA CUTE GIRLS TO KNOW SETUP

How is this not AtE? He is appealing to the emotion that he doesn't care enough to look at the setup because he is distracted by 'cute girls' as a means as to why he's being lazy.

mw295
wb bad
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back
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lol that made no sense
mw295
plz don't call me out on that

How is this not AtE? MW is appealing to a player right now that his argument is wrong because it doesn't make sense.

Would you like me to go further?



that is not AtE at all


define it then because im pretty sure he is appealing to some certain emotion that a town member is feeling right now regarding him


LOOOOL that isn't AtE dude
over 10 years

Edark says

man Imma get an alt and dumbtell/AtE heavily + caps and win myself a trophy too


And make sure it's the same people in each game so you can AtE each other for the meta.
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if you intentionally try to do it you're gonna get banned
over 10 years
man Imma get an alt and dumbtell/AtE heavily + caps and win myself a trophy too
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man if he replies to dave again he'll look so dumb lol