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Moderating hipfire

almost 10 years

The mod team has recently been discussing how to moderate hipfiring. The current precedent is to consider it a trolling violation in red heart games and a game throwing (GT) violation in competitive games.

We're deciding between the current precedent and two other options.

  1. Trolling throughout. The idea behind this is that game rules are game rules and that moderation should be standardized between red and gold heart games.
  2. Game throwing throughout. This plays to the idea that the action of hipfiring is generally done without "playing to win" and as such falls under game throwing.

Please vote in the poll and if you feel that you have a point that you would like to make, post in this thread. If you have another option that you think is viable, please also let us know!

What should hipfiring be moderated as?
42
Trolling in red hearts, GT in gold hearts
18
Game throwing
16
Trolling
5
Other (please explain)
almost 10 years

vilden says

IT'S TROLLING

NO ONE HIPFIRES WITH INTENT TO NOT WIN

THEY'RE JUST F UCKING AROUND

TROLLING VIOLATIONS STACK UP EASIER TOO SO WE CAN BAN TROLLS FASTER THIS WAY

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You should only get a vio if the person hipfired is a verifiable minority. Hipfiring whites should be allowed
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Slowbro says

here's what i don't get: laid


you and me both, buddy
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also says the same thing i did but people plus his post and not mine im SALTY
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Matt12 casually plusses his own post without realizing people can see who plussed a post
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Hi Cody,

It depends on the situation.

Thanks.
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To me gamethrowing is something intentional that you do with motives, like getting someone to win or stopping someone else from winning. Not even grudge gamethrow here

while the only motive of trolling is to get reported or to get a rise out of people, which is exactly what people who hipfire have in mind when they do it. Unless if it's grudge, then good for them.
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vilden says

WELL GIGA

THAT'S WHY IT SHOULD JUST BE TROLLING


your argument sucks because if it's both trolling and gamethrowing then the harsher violation is in fact always supposed to be given, also you can gt by trolling, in which case you should get gt, not trolling
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hipfiring is undoubtedly trolling. there's absolutely no legitimate reason to shoot randomly as the sheriff or deputy. the reason it should be GT in competitive games is because they're clearly more serious
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There is no point to ask the public how Hipfire should be moderated when the moderators do not know what a proper hipfire is.
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I mean come on, can you honestly tell me I deserve a GT vio for hipfiring that? He's dangerously stupid
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When you guys are mafia and you're picking the night kill don't you sometimes just *feel* like someone is PR so you choose them based off of that instinct? You just know they're flipping mafia... you just KNOW.

That's how I feel when I have a gun in my hand that causes me to hipfire 2 seconds into the day.

I promise you I have won all of the games I've hipfired in.
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Focusion: an unironic fusion of the words focus and fusion.
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CODY instead of focusion on something stupid, wny not go and fking fix the role mods? There are cheaters runing around and no one is doing anything.
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Both of those sound perfectly reasonable and responsible
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imagine if someone joined a game to specifically shoot someone in comp lobby at day 1 start

imagine if someones first game they get a gun so they decide to shoot it cause the game tells them to
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apollo says


Goodbar says


Matt12 says


Goodbar says

i think it should all be trolling. if someone hipfires to up another player then it's gamethrowing, because that falls under gamethrowing as it already is.


what the fuc k do you know


...things? i guess





+K
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Hip firing can often be town sided depending on who it is you're shooting. For instance: if you're shooting xxerox or maymay before they effectively re*ard the town then it shouldn't be GTing
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I do.

But why are we discussing this?

Hipfiring has always been a GT in ranked games :/

You can't say you have reads 10 seconds in the game and shoot, and get away from a vio :fp:
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does anyone really care
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vilden says

grudge hipfiring/shooting/lynching is GT'ign and is very different

the topic is about hipfire


hipfiring is hipfiring

anytime I do it I am justified in doing so
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grudge hipfiring/shooting/lynching is GT'ign and is very different

the topic is about hipfire
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i would hipfire that face
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Goodbar says


Matt12 says


Goodbar says

i think it should all be trolling. if someone hipfires to up another player then it's gamethrowing, because that falls under gamethrowing as it already is.


what the fuc k do you know


...things? i guess


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vilden says

Jimbei, explain why u switched from trolling to gt or im gonna lynch you


I'll report you for grudge lynching if you do so