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Moderating hipfire

over 8 years

The mod team has recently been discussing how to moderate hipfiring. The current precedent is to consider it a trolling violation in red heart games and a game throwing (GT) violation in competitive games.

We're deciding between the current precedent and two other options.

  1. Trolling throughout. The idea behind this is that game rules are game rules and that moderation should be standardized between red and gold heart games.
  2. Game throwing throughout. This plays to the idea that the action of hipfiring is generally done without "playing to win" and as such falls under game throwing.

Please vote in the poll and if you feel that you have a point that you would like to make, post in this thread. If you have another option that you think is viable, please also let us know!

What should hipfiring be moderated as?
42
Trolling in red hearts, GT in gold hearts
18
Game throwing
16
Trolling
5
Other (please explain)
over 8 years
In the big picture hipfiring is just a suboptimal play. (3/8 odds of shooting mafia in A&V for example) Playing suboptimally has never been gamethrowing.
over 8 years
thank you very much
over 8 years

Sims says

it's fine the way it is (:


You're fine the way you are ^_^
over 8 years
it's fine the way it is (:
over 8 years

vilden says


Forrest says

I'm not reading that lol


why not troll elsewhere dumbass


laments the guy typing essays in defense of hipfiring
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lol
over 8 years

Forrest says

I'm not reading that lol


why not troll elsewhere dumbass
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the other day i was hipfired as blacksmith pls put an end to it
over 8 years
i only skimmed the first part of your post but claiming mafia is no more reasonable to do as scum than as town so unless the person does it and tries to sound like they're giving up, it makes no sense to give them a vio
over 8 years

Slowbro says

remember when jack and alsharpton cheated together and one of al's throwaway alts that he threw for jack on was "fuckinggameofthrones"


are we sure jack cheated
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I'm not reading that lol
over 8 years

Giga says


vilden says

WELL GIGA

THAT'S WHY IT SHOULD JUST BE TROLLING


your argument sucks because if it's both trolling and gamethrowing then the harsher violation is in fact always supposed to be given, also you can gt by trolling, in which case you should get gt, not trolling


giga let me give you some scenarios. this should explain why hipfiring is trolling the same way a troll claiming mafia as town is

1- a nuisance troll town claims mafia excessively which ends up getting him lynched. his actions hurt town and gets a trolling vio

2- a nuisance troll town claims mafia excessively and is townread. his actions lead to a town win. but he disrupted the game and almost got lynched bc players saw him as a town liability. he gets trolling

though you can say, "what motivation is there for town to claim maf?" or "claiming mafia as town is not playing to your win con," which are reasons to support GT (the harsher vio), players are still given trolling

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1- a troll flips sheriff and hipfires his friend who flips cop, ends in a town loss. he is given trolling for something that hurt town

2- a troll flips sheriff and hipfires his friend who flips mafia, town wins in the end. he is given trolling even though his actions could have easily hurt town

though you can say, "what motivation is there to hipfire" or "hipfiring isn't playing to your win con," which are reasons for GT (the harsher vio), players are still given trolling
over 8 years

gameofthrowns says


Impoetic says


groundhogday says

yeah but you still voted 6 times


does anyone really care


does anyone really care


good point
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remember when jack and alsharpton cheated together and one of al's throwaway alts that he threw for jack on was "fuckinggameofthrones"
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Impoetic says


groundhogday says

yeah but you still voted 6 times


does anyone really care


does anyone really care
over 8 years

groundhogday says

yeah but you still voted 6 times


does anyone really care
over 8 years

Giga says

Matt12 casually plusses his own post without realizing people can see who plussed a post


i know
over 8 years
yeah but you still voted 6 times
over 8 years

groundhogday says


Impoetic says

does anyone really care


you voted in the poll 6 times


yes, because gerry made a comment about people voting that options with all their alts, and I like gerry so i want him t obe right about everything
over 8 years

Impoetic says

does anyone really care


you voted in the poll 6 times
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i count at least 400 censor bypasses in this thread alone. i myself have even hidden a few to test the mods. you have 24 hours to find them all before i call adsense on my prepaid cell phone. good luck.
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The person who gets shot should get a vio too tbqh
over 8 years
slowbro why didn't you answer my question in your AMA thread? you can answer it here if you would like
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question to the mods: why are you so lax on censor bypassing do you want this site to go down again hm?????
over 8 years
the old precedent of giving it trolling if they had clear intent to win after hipfiring was better