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Why we shouldn't use the R-word

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"Do not call something you don't like "Redacted". By calling something "Redacted", you are essentially saying an undesirable object or event is the same as someone with intellectual, developmental, or physical disabilities. This invalidates feelings and the identities of people with disabilities and puts them in a position where they are used to describe something that is considered to be flawed, useless, or stupid. It also makes YOU look flawed, useless and stupid by using such an uncool term. There are a ton of great words you can use instead to describe things, people, and situations that anger or annoy you.

For example: If something is a bad idea, you can use words such as dense, useless, obtuse, pathetic, or vapid. Don't forget terms like jackass or bonehead. Or make up snappy new insults. Swearing may be okay, but might make you look less impressive.

If someone or something angers you, use words like contemptible, enraging, evil, infuriating, horrible, irrational, rage-inducing. If someone or something is disgusting, try using nasty, gross, foul, nauseating, skeevy, repellent, repulsive, vomitous or terrible instead."

"The historical context of the word is important to know. People with disabilities have been treated poorly, discriminated against, abused, and neglected in the past and even today. Just changing the way you speak and avoiding using the term can make a difference for people with disabilities today and in the future."

"…support the elimination of the derogatory use of the r-word from everyday speech and promote the acceptance and inclusion of people with intellectual disabilities."

Short video: https://youtu.be/T549VoLca_Q

225 other word substitutes: http://specialchildren.about.com/od/disabilityrights/ss/225-Subsitutes-For-The-R-Word.htm#step2

Reading material: http://www.r-word.org/r-word-effects-of-the-word.aspx

Please keep on-topic or your posts will be deleted.

Is the R-Word acceptable to use? (Please do not vote unless you have read the OP/reading material)
66
No
40
Yes
over 8 years

Vancyon says


Edark says

Like the word idiot used to mean exactly the same thing as r-word and its meaning has been changed among most people.


all aboard the euphemistic treadmill!


Im not entirely sure what you're trying to say, but your point is noted.
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yeah, that was me, i was the guy
over 8 years

Calvin says

great thread with a great purpose!


says the guy who insulted me for my mental disorder while hiding behind anthony's account in a game because i didn't selfvote for him as mafia
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Ryuko says

i've never heard of the f-slur changing meaning at all


permission to post a south park clip, moderators?
over 8 years

deandean says

Why was I linked this. *sigh*

Time for me to speak up about drama I have no real say except that I have autism and the r-word is loved to be thrown in with that. Listen. the r-word is just a freaking word meaning slow. That's what it means. Let's ban the word slow then!!! God damn r-word shouldnt be banned honestly what the heck.


lol
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Why was I linked this. *sigh*

Time for me to speak up about drama I have no real say except that I have autism and the r-word is loved to be thrown in with that. Listen. the r-word is just a freaking word meaning slow. That's what it means. Let's ban the word slow then!!! God damn r-word shouldnt be banned honestly what the heck.
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Calvin says

alright, giga's here everyone. until next time.


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Giga says

if people called me it I wouldn't care


#P R I V I L E G E
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giga you could have just said "i dont have an opinion" instead of typing out two paragraphs
over 8 years

Calvin says

alright, giga's here everyone. until next time.


shut up weeb trash
over 8 years
Are you guys trying to offend one another?
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Ryuko says


Retti says

both sides over complicate a simple matter, i dont have an issue not saying the r word in front of people who don't want me to but i don't think people should get on my case if i actively choose to use it with a group of people i know its OK with


in a public space......


epicmafia games are a public space? people can even say the r word on the forums for one
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Edark says

Like the word idiot used to mean exactly the same thing as r-word and its meaning has been changed among most people.


all aboard the euphemistic treadmill!
over 8 years
The way I see it, words exist, language exists, words have meanings, people are going to insult each other, for the people saying "you should advocate for no insults at all", well, that's kinda hypocritical since you guys insult people yourselves and we don't live in a utopian society where everything is sunshine and lollipops. People are always going to insult each other lol

You should probably just not say unnecessarily bad things to each other, but honestly to me the word doesn't bother me at all; if people called me it I wouldn't care
over 8 years
i've never heard of the f-slur changing meaning at all
over 8 years

Anthony says

While I agree that insulting people on it's face is immoral, my belief is that not insulting someone > personalized non slur insult > slur. Also, there are a lot of times when people jokingly call a friend a slur. If they had called a friend of theirs jokingly an "idiot" versus a "redacted" they have a higher chance of not offending people around them who might be offended as a third party.


Im not going down the slippery slope fallacy and act like you cant have banter and that you should ban all insults, but I dislike the whole mentality people have about language and their attempt(regardless of their valiant intention) of policing certain words. Like the word idiot used to mean exactly the same thing as r-word and its meaning has been changed among most people due to it daily usage. The same was thing happend with the f-word untill people started policing it which caused it to regain it old meaning. Its quite counterproductive and doesnt stop the hate whatsoever, people just find different words to express their hate.
over 8 years

Retti says

both sides over complicate a simple matter, i dont have an issue not saying the r word in front of people who don't want me to but i don't think people should get on my case if i actively choose to use it with a group of people i know its OK with


in a public space......
deletedover 8 years
Do you know how many times I've genuinely had to use the word na.zi in a conversation about history, and how annoyed I am every time I remember it is censored?
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alright, giga's here everyone. until next time.
over 8 years

Ichizon says

I SAID NOTHING OFFENSIVE THAT IS MY OPINION


well it's a f*cking terrible opinion
over 8 years
i'm not personally offended by it, just more like, ideologically against it
over 8 years

Edark says


mist says

the point

Things that are kinda hateful, regardless of to what extend u think it matters:
-Using general words in order to insult a specific group or w/e u wanna call it
-Using words that refer to a specific group as a general insult

using [redacted] falls under the later. and like, the argument that "the definition of the word has changed" is a perfectly reasonable argument, the legitimacy of which is in the eye of the beholder


I agree completely. This thread is in the end about morality which is why I get hung up about the whole "hey take all these insults insted"-part which IMO kinda destroys the whole point of it all and is in itself quite counterproductive and immoral.


While I agree that insulting people on it's face is immoral, my belief is that not insulting someone > personalized non slur insult > slur. Also, there are a lot of times when people jokingly call a friend a slur. If they had called a friend of theirs jokingly an "idiot" versus a "redacted" they have a higher chance of not offending people around them who might be offended as a third party.
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both sides over complicate a simple matter, i dont have an issue not saying the r word in front of people who don't want me to but i don't think people should get on my case if i actively choose to use it with a group of people i know its OK with
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wow sniped by calvin. man.
deletedover 8 years

Kylo says

The word pe.nal is censored. Like the mod who wrote the list of censored words didn't know the difference between pe.nal and penile, which is not censored. Shouldn't that get fixed, eventually?


LaurieRose was the one who wrote the list, so that explains that.