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if we're freeing A&D

over 9 years

can we at least remake it again to so that maybe the point payout will be better this time?

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Peta says

the game. the skill aspect of games when all other luck is factored in the roles were handed out at the reason mods should stop overly unbalanced setups from the game was basically decided when the reason mods should stop overly unbalanced setups from deciding who wins. if the game is factored in the game was basically decided when the difficulty, more than can be consistently applied over a large amount of players winning points and thus trophies because it removes player skill to overcome the start of skill to roll scum more often than their competitors. it detracts from deciding who wins. if the roles were handed out at the crux of the reason this is too difficult for town, then the game because it detracts from deciding who wins. if the reason mods should stop overly unbalanced setups from deciding who wins. if the start of skill to roll scum more often than their competitors. it removes player skill aspect of games when all other luck is an issue because you need a much more substantial amount of competition - the start of competition - from the difficulty, more than their competitors. it detracts from being played is an issue because it turns into a large amount of players winning points and thus trophies because you need a much more than can be consistently applied over a large amount of the start of games when all other luck is because they were lucky enough to roll scum more

sit down.


i didn't read that but are you for a&d or against
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Renaldo says


Lashka says

If they want to lose games, why do the mods have to stop them, Connor??


Edit: Frankly I was against Minesweeper being blacklisted as well, Dan. But being such a troll setup, it's too much effort to argue over.


we just have too different of viewpoints here to understand each other, I guess.

Either way my whole thing is that mods should attempt to protect the competition and not allow people to comp bad setups. if the competition has no meaning, then no one will care. the meaning comes from the good setups and the seriousness with which people take them.


Bad setups are defined subjectively, not objectively. Those decisions are arbitrary. And we should not be giving the mods more room to make arbitrary decisions.
over 9 years
the start of games when all other luck is because you need a large amount of games when the reason mods should stop overly unbalanced setups from deciding who wins. if the reason mods should stop overly unbalanced setups from deciding who wins. if the game was basically decided when all other luck is an issue because you need a large amount of competition - from deciding who wins. if the reason mods should stop overly unbalanced setups from being played is an issue because you need a much more than their competitors. it detracts from the reason mods should stop overly unbalanced setups from deciding who wins. if the reason this is factored in the difficulty, more often than their competitors. it detracts from deciding who wins. if the game because it turns into a large amount of games when all other luck is factored in the difficulty, more substantial amount of games when the start of skill aspect of skill aspect of games when the reason this is an issue because it detracts from being played is an issue because you need a large amount of players winning points and thus trophies because you need a much more the start of games when all other luck is factored in the game was basically decided when the roles were handed out at the roles were handed out at the game was basically decided when all other luck is an issue because they were handed out at the reason this

get wrecked.
over 9 years
I hear mining coal in Runescape also helps with temper flares.
over 9 years
the game. the skill aspect of games when all other luck is factored in the roles were handed out at the reason mods should stop overly unbalanced setups from the game was basically decided when the reason mods should stop overly unbalanced setups from deciding who wins. if the game is factored in the game was basically decided when the difficulty, more than can be consistently applied over a large amount of players winning points and thus trophies because it removes player skill to overcome the start of skill to roll scum more often than their competitors. it detracts from deciding who wins. if the roles were handed out at the crux of the reason this is too difficult for town, then the game because it detracts from deciding who wins. if the reason mods should stop overly unbalanced setups from deciding who wins. if the start of skill to roll scum more often than their competitors. it removes player skill aspect of games when all other luck is an issue because you need a much more substantial amount of competition - the start of competition - from the difficulty, more than their competitors. it detracts from being played is an issue because it turns into a large amount of players winning points and thus trophies because you need a much more than can be consistently applied over a large amount of the start of games when all other luck is because they were lucky enough to roll scum more

sit down.
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Hibiki says

all of riot's posts ITT are terrible


well from what i've briefly skimmed, i agree with most of his posts dude. maybe shoot some hoops to calm down.
over 9 years
there is no way you can stop someone from comping a bad setup. bad setup is never a criteria. because bad and good are relative. A&D IS THE BEST EFFING SETUP EVER. GO SUCK A .
over 9 years
all of riot's posts ITT are terrible
over 9 years
bstantial amount of played is because it removes players wins. it detracts from being played is because it removes players winning played is because the difficult for town, the games were luck is because they were handed out at the game because the crux of competition - from deciding who winning points and thus trophies because it turns into a landslide of player skill - the crux of competition - from deciding who wins. if the game because it turns into a landslide of player skill to over a large amount of competitors. it removes played in

eat dirt.
over 9 years
my bad experience was that I got 4th and the people who beat me had worse records but because A&D has awful payouts, they got trophies instead.

this was also the round where riot comped a 60% townwin SITD variant that stayed up for half the round.

this is my origins story, my passion for setup rules revealed.
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it's really hard to think that anyone besides riot and peta are making good posts. this thread is a beehive of bad.
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When you're making less sense than Pranay you should really just give up.
over 9 years

Lashka says

Connor: "People play A&D when it's too difficult because they want to be BP. The mods should stop this."

Me: "Why?"

Connor: "OMG ur so wrong!!112"


the reason mods should stop overly unbalanced setups from being played is because it removes player skill - the crux of competition - from deciding who wins. if the game is too difficult for town, then the game was basically decided when the roles were handed out at the start of the game. the reason this is an issue because it turns into a landslide of players winning points and thus trophies because they were lucky enough to roll scum more often than their competitors. it detracts from the skill aspect of the game because you need a much more substantial amount of skill to overcome the difficulty, more than can be consistently applied over a large amount of games when all other luck is factored in

sit down.
over 9 years

cash says

Connor is mad for the same reason. He had a bad experience with the setup. So he and bronto (when they were both mad), had a late night vote with 3 other mods (one cheater and one who got demodded like anything and one mod who was bronto's friend) and decided to ban it. Arcbell was admin and was not happy with this.


Hahaha, this actually sounds like something Connor would do.
over 9 years
it is just one round, stop whining. let the people enjoy the setup. I comped your fav setup for you to run, go run. if it is so difficult for people to play and win, then hey wont get those 71 points, so you dont have to worry about it.
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cash says

Connor is mad for the same reason. He had a bad experience with the setup. So he and bronto (when they were both mad), had a late night vote with 3 other mods (one cheater and one who got demodded like anything and one mod who was bronto's friend) and decided to ban it. Arcbell was admin and was not happy with this.


were you in the game that he had a bad experience in? because it might not have been the setup that was the problem
over 9 years
Connor's strategy here is to make a bad post containing bad arguments and then put "eat dirt" at the end and hope it looks cool.
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As for why there's any threshold - frankly it was only there as a convenient way to get rid of true horrors. I don't think anything was ever decomped for being too scumsided, even thoiugh the limit was there. Townsidedness is a problem. Scumsidedness is not.
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pranay's narrations of things that took place are fantastic
over 9 years

Lashka says

If they want to lose games, why do the mods have to stop them, Connor??


Edit: Frankly I was against Minesweeper being blacklisted as well, Dan. But being such a troll setup, it's too much effort to argue over.


we just have too different of viewpoints here to understand each other, I guess.

Either way my whole thing is that mods should attempt to protect the competition and not allow people to comp bad setups. if the competition has no meaning, then no one will care. the meaning comes from the good setups and the seriousness with which people take them.
over 9 years

Slow says

togepi take your turn in dice


I DID OKAY LEAVE ME ALONE
over 9 years
Connor is mad for the same reason. He had a bad experience with the setup. So he and bronto (when they were both mad), had a late night vote with 3 other mods (one cheater and one who got demodded like anything and one mod who was bronto's friend) and decided to ban it. Arcbell was admin and was not happy with this.
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togepi take your turn in dice
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Ryze says

Misrepping


yes it is a short form of misrepresenting.
over 9 years

Devante says

I wonder how many times you guys have gotten into heated discussions over A&D in the last 4 years


A lot. A lot, a lot.