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Hibiki
about 10 years

can we at least remake it again to so that maybe the point payout will be better this time?

deletedabout 10 years

Hibiki says


Lashka says

Why is 59% too scumsided. What is it about that number that suddenly makes it too scumsided?


if town are losing basically 60% of all games then it's just too damn hard


Then they shouldn't be joining that setup... and they won't. If a setup is too difficult, people don't play it. You don't really even need mod intervention. The only time 'huge scumsidedness' would actually be a real problem is in a reverse setup.

Example: Nobody played Janitorial 101 for many many years because it was too difficult.
deletedabout 10 years
i would understand if maybe A&D was fun but every game of A&D i've ever played makes me want to hate myself and everyone in it

A&D will start world war III, think about that mods
Togepi
about 10 years

Ryze says

I understand guys. I cry over 1% when I'm trying to get at 90% in a class. But c'mon, over a game?


Shouldn't you be crying for 3% to get an A?
deletedabout 10 years
https://epicmafia.com/game/4006825?password=bbe7a403b1d88d6ee0133417a21da94346fce808 *pipsqueak voice* dice...
deletedabout 10 years
stop playing mafia in the ways that I don't want to play mafia. this site should be an exact reflection of all the things I personally find fun.
Ryze
about 10 years
I understand guys. I cry over 1% when I'm trying to get at 90% in a class. But c'mon, over a game?
Hibiki
about 10 years

Lashka says

Why is 59% too scumsided. What is it about that number that suddenly makes it too scumsided?


if town are losing basically 60% of all games then it's just too damn hard
deletedabout 10 years
its not like you play it, or its not like the setup has even been allowed in the main lobby, if you make fun of steven for spending text wall upon text wall trying to justify his rules but not ever playing the game to ever see them go through then you must understand that a&d should be given at least a chance in the main lobby and based on how well it performs during the round, a more appropriate course of action can be taken post round 300.
AmishGuy
about 10 years

Patrick says


emperorschance says

in fact, maybe its just that ALL setups with a gun arent fit for competitive O_o


this is the golden idea right here


this is how you make every setup meta and shipping
deletedabout 10 years

emperorschance says

in fact, maybe its just that ALL setups with a gun arent fit for competitive O_o


this is the golden idea right here
Renaldo
about 10 years
It's all about feel.
deletedabout 10 years
isn't it WEIRD that people are posting about something i myself am not? the levels of effort are through the roof.
Hibiki
about 10 years
the only valid point being made for the threshold ITT (aka, non of lashka's points) are the ones helsinki is making - that these old comparison setups are a lot worse nowadays but we will never know because they won't be remade
deletedabout 10 years
Why is 59% too scumsided. What is it about that number that suddenly makes it too scumsided?
Renaldo
about 10 years

Hibiki says

60% scumsided is FAR too scumsided. i don't even care about SDS at this point - no one ever played 60% scumsided and it was never quoted as a limit unless it was hush hush mods only


exactly - nothing was written down and all these 'rules' were kept to a few of the old admins and mods who weren't on the team when i was first modded.

After the DLYV thing where there was nothing to make a decision on, I decided it was time to make some rules that everyone would be aware of and follow.
Peta
about 10 years

Ryze says

I can't believe you guys are making a huge fuss over 1%. The lengths to get A&D blacklisted is astonishing.


Shut up.
AmishGuy
about 10 years

Devante says

change hateful comment vios then, what a stupid freaking vio that is.

I'd literally have as many hateful comment vios as games played if she specc'd my games

deletedabout 10 years
in fact, maybe its just that ALL setups with a gun arent fit for competitive O_o
Hibiki
about 10 years
59 is too scumsided. and yes, 55 town is also too townsided
Ryze
about 10 years
I can't believe you guys are making a huge fuss over 1%. The lengths to get A&D blacklisted is astonishing.
Peta
about 10 years
A&D is more tolerable than SDS.
deletedabout 10 years
I said 60%+. IE, 59% would be the most allowed.

Frankly, overly scumsidedness isn't a huge problem because it can't be farmed anyway. It's actually the cut-off for townsidedness that's a lot tougher to judge, and 55% might indeed be at bit too high now.
deletedabout 10 years
arguing about balance is silly, when it boils down to the fact that sds is a fine setup, a&d isn't.
Peta
about 10 years

Peta says


pranay7744 says

hipfire happens in all other gun setups too. so stop giving bad reasons.

PS: bronto is mad. so mad. he is burning


You wear dress shirts from the '70s and you pop your collar over the lapels of your jacket.


That's all there is to see, kids. Pranay's posting career has met a grim and grisly end.
deletedabout 10 years
Kennedy was a bad player who made a bad setup and the rest is history