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if we're freeing A&D

Hibiki
about 10 years

can we at least remake it again to so that maybe the point payout will be better this time?

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It wasn't done arbitrarily, SDS was comped last round with the same imbalance as A&D and did fine. It doesn't make sense to disallow one over the other since they have the same payout. guns for everyone
deletedabout 10 years
a mod should really tell helsinski that a person can't get 2 different violations for one game, i've seen her take the lead and give multiple violations to a user in one game.
deletedabout 10 years
Every setup is way more scumsided now than in the past. The entire comp playerbase has got more scumsided and has been doing so for at least 2 years.
deletedabout 10 years
i've come to think about how bad most epicmafia setups are in a mafia sense and how they only work because of the playerbase and established meta on epicmafia so if people wanna play another bad setup then oh well
Togepi
about 10 years

pranay7744 says

the point payout is absolutely fine. it shows the kind of players we have. it will fall back to 69 soon. just watch. notice how vdli has always been balanced.


It hasn't always been balanced...
Peta
about 10 years
OK, lady, listen up. I will just this once tell you how to interpret my posts:

Yes. Yes, I was making fun of you.
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Patrick says

in one perspective i dont see what it's going to kill to unban A&D but in another perspective it's an inherently unbalanced setup that promotes unruly behavior much like any other setup with a gun so if the mods want to sift through hipfire reports again that's their perogative


there's a difference between "swingy" and "unbalanced"
jana
about 10 years

Slow says


jana says


Peta says


jana says

are you making fun of me peta i think you are


I like to leave my posts to the interpretation of the reader.


i actually read it in slow's voice bc it seemed like something he would say so i don't know what that means


it means that you have bad consistency with inner dialogue.


tell me you wouldn't call my poo-post "wild" in a sarcastic manner
Hibiki
about 10 years
renaldo, i'm the only person that ever said "nothing should be more scumsided than SDS" so widely regarded is false. but i also happen to be right anyway
Renaldo
about 10 years

Lashka says

'widely regarded' by a few forumers. I daresay the average player couldn't explain what 'too scumsided' is.

What big setups are actually more scumsided than SDS and got blocked as a result, other than A&D?


no one else attempts to comp anything scumsided. when i was admin if they did i told them it was outside the range. Janitorial 101 is the only other one beyond 57% scumwin i can think of.
deletedabout 10 years

Peta says

Bear Is So Slow: indiscriminate self-disgorger of inferior posts.


i make posts that i bake lovingly in my oven for 4-6 hours.
Peta
about 10 years

jana says


Peta says


jana says

are you making fun of me peta i think you are


I like to leave my posts to the interpretation of the reader.


i actually read it in slow's voice bc it seemed like something he would say so i don't know what that means


It is something that I would say.
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if SDS were remade it might approach 70% scum winrate. this is a different playerbase with different ideas about playing mafia than the one that got that setup tens of thousands of plays.
pranay7744
about 10 years
the point payout is absolutely fine. it shows the kind of players we have. it will fall back to 69 soon. just watch. notice how vdli has always been balanced.
jana
about 10 years
anything is better than reverse/gallis hunter/minesweeper reports.

also helsinski ate all the reports today while i was at the hospital
deletedabout 10 years

jana says


Peta says


jana says

are you making fun of me peta i think you are


I like to leave my posts to the interpretation of the reader.


i actually read it in slow's voice bc it seemed like something he would say so i don't know what that means


it means that you have bad consistency with inner dialogue.
Peta
about 10 years
Bear Is So Slow: indiscriminate self-disgorger of inferior posts.
Renaldo
about 10 years
it's not about 'power' it's about making rules and following them. there's no point in having any kind of rules surrounding a competition if they aren't being followed.
deletedabout 10 years
in one perspective i dont see what it's going to kill to unban A&D but in another perspective it's an inherently unbalanced setup that promotes unruly behavior much like any other setup with a gun so if the mods want to sift through hipfire reports again that's their perogative
deletedabout 10 years
'widely regarded' by a few forumers. I daresay the average player couldn't explain what 'too scumsided' is.

What big setups are actually more scumsided than SDS and got blocked as a result, other than A&D?
jana
about 10 years

Peta says


jana says

are you making fun of me peta i think you are


I like to leave my posts to the interpretation of the reader.


i actually read it in slow's voice bc it seemed like something he would say so i don't know what that means
deletedabout 10 years

pranay7744 says

you made limits just to blacklist A&D. the whole rule was designed for this purpose. We all know what happened with you. And since you no longer play and are no longer mod, go away. the people who play here they want it. who are you to whine. you are whining because you just feel like you lost power.


shockingly, most people don't value the illusion of power on epicmafia. take your time, i know this has rocked your world.
deletedabout 10 years

Togepi says


helsinki says


Togepi says


helsinki says

we decided to unblacklist a&d in an attempt to shed awareness on the atrocities taking place in Baltimore


This is very white of you.


say this again and you'll be staring down the barrel of a harassment vio


I'm sorry that I pointed out you being grossly insensitive to a poignant social issue. And also for being white.


lol
Ryze
about 10 years
Just because you dislike the setup, doesn't mean it should be blacklisted.
Renaldo
about 10 years

Lashka says

Well, yes, but you deliberately designed those limits to exclude it.


no, i deliberately designed it on SDS because that's widely regarded as the most tolerable scumsided setup. Anything beyond that is too far.