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Hibiki
over 9 years

can we at least remake it again to so that maybe the point payout will be better this time?

deletedover 9 years

Hibiki says


Hibiki says


Lashka says

Payouts are only relevant on outright pointfarms. Only townsided setups are pointfarms. Scumsided setups literally cannot be pointfarmed, unless they're reversed (in which case, the inverse rules apply).


it "can't" be pointfarmed because you have to be "lucky" to roll scum all the time - except someone has to be scum every game, so there will always be the "lucky" few. get "lucky" a few times, and you have the advantage. if the setup is popular it's more likely for players to get "lucky"

these are undeniable facts





gambler's fallacy. bye.
Sims
over 9 years
if you win 55%~ of your town games and 75% of your scum games in an a&d round, you'll probably at least get bronze.
cash
over 9 years
hold on connor, do you want me to paste the skype chat we had where you admitted to being ryuko?
Peta
over 9 years
It's 4 a.m. somewhere in the world and that somewhere is Scotland, and somewhere in Scotland Connor is feverishly scraping his face across his keyboard in an attempt to undermine the mountains of logic and evidence poised against him.
deletedover 9 years
The "luck" of rolling scum in a scumsided setup repeatedly, unlikely that it is from the very start due to simple probability (you know, 3/9 chance you roll mafia, 6/9 chance you roll town, basic math), is balanced out by the fact... mafia wins get less points! Payouts solved your problem years ago.
Hibiki
over 9 years

cash says

hey everybody, connor comped sds last round and is whining that it should not be because of the point payout


oh, i get it. you think i'm Ryuko

deletedover 9 years

cash says

hey everybody, connor comped sds last round and is whining that it should not be because of the point payout


He is frustrated. He is mad. He is wrong. He is... Connor.
Sims
over 9 years
yeah but if you're not winning enough games as town to compensate then you don't deserve a trophy in the first place
deletedover 9 years

Renaldo says


Sims says

it's always good to be reminded that people still care


i wish i didn't anymore. but my passion for epicmafia burns fiercely.


not long until it engulfs your whole body and you're dead

or at least that's what i wish haha
Hibiki
over 9 years

Sims says

rolling scum too much in a&d is a disadvantage


50 points is better than 0 points
cash
over 9 years
hey everybody, connor comped sds last round and is whining that it should not be because of the point payout
Renaldo
over 9 years
that's it, i'm going to apply for moderator and change the site for the better... it's been spiraling downhill for so long, only I can fix it.
Togepi
over 9 years
That doesn't make sense, Connor.
Sims
over 9 years
rolling scum too much in a&d is a disadvantage
Hibiki
over 9 years

dasracist says

He's basically arguing that "sometimes the town fails incredibly even when the BP has gun due to them having bad reads or players and therefore the setup's inherently scumsided"


no, i'm not

i am literally being ignored and misrepresented in this entire thread because you think i am on a crusade against A&D - if i was on a crusade against A&D, this thread wouldn't exist the way it does.
deletedover 9 years
It isn't "lucky" to roll scum in A&D because not only is it not scumsided in practice but you also only get 50 points
Renaldo
over 9 years

Sims says

it's always good to be reminded that people still care


i wish i didn't anymore. but my passion for epicmafia burns fiercely.
Peta
over 9 years
Another day, another poor argumentation by Connor.
cash
over 9 years
connor comped sds last round.
deletedover 9 years
but it doesnt mean it isnt a terrible setup that needs to be kabooshed forever.
Hibiki
over 9 years

Hibiki says


Lashka says

Payouts are only relevant on outright pointfarms. Only townsided setups are pointfarms. Scumsided setups literally cannot be pointfarmed, unless they're reversed (in which case, the inverse rules apply).


it "can't" be pointfarmed because you have to be "lucky" to roll scum all the time - except someone has to be scum every game, so there will always be the "lucky" few. get "lucky" a few times, and you have the advantage. if the setup is popular it's more likely for players to get "lucky"

these are undeniable facts

deletedover 9 years
He's basically arguing that "sometimes the town fails incredibly even when the BP has gun due to them having bad reads or players and therefore the setup's inherently scumsided"
deletedover 9 years
yeah, i mean i compd a&d the time i won silver.
deletedover 9 years
I think you should just admit You Lost The Argument, Connor.
Sims
over 9 years
it's always good to be reminded that people still care