Edark says

How the *** can you believe that taxes is a major factor on why you're on welfare holy moly

If this is at me, I don't. I've said this a bunch of times. >_<

BLACK POPULATION OF IDAHO: 0.8%

BLACK POPULATION OF MICHIGAN: 14%


DISCUSSION OF IDAHO IS AN INHERENTLY RACIST TOPIC. THE DIFFERENCE IS CLEARLY STATISTICALLY SIGNIFICANT.


I have a master's degree, dude - don't even try to use words you don't understand against me.

How the *** can you believe that taxes is a major factor on why you're on welfare holy moly

well no, it's stastistically significant and you can't really ignore the obvious correlation there.

wow malaka that is a shame - if i made no money i wouldn't pay a penny over 20% in taxes

if we kicked vermont out of the US then black people would be better represented in congress

KillHimNotMe says

which system is that, Melody?

This corrupt system, I heard that a business has to pay at least an 80% tax rate on their profits, if they make no money.

There is being wrong, then there is being Melody

ANY POLICY THAT INCREASES THE PROPORTION OF VOTES CAST BY WHITE PEOPLE IS BAD.

ANY POLICY THAT DECREASES THE PROPORTION OF VOTES CAST BY WHITE PEOPLE IS GOOD.

Sometimes I envy simple people

i'm not sure why khnm came back to em.

it's not derailing. by trying to take away voting rights from welfare voters, you're basically trying to pull voting literacy tests again. it's relevant to the topic because anyone asserting that welfare recipients should not be allowed to vote is, whether actively or not, encouraging institutional racism.

Melody, please - I am the finest judger of trolls I have ever known and Cantankerous is super serious right now

which system is that, Melody?

KHNM - Cantankerous is trolling :')

cantankerous - if you try to derail this thread one more time, I will report you

Small businesses are very screwed over by the system, for sure.

us pop to us welfare pop: 313.9 mil to 12.8 mil.
white pop to white welfare pop: 226.008 mil to 4.9664 mil
black pop to black welfare pop: 40.807 mil to 5.0994 mil
latino pop to latino welfare pop: 47.085 mil to 2.0096

white welfare rate: 2.2%
black welfare rate: 12.5%
latino welfare rate: 4.27%

okay.

Melody - Malaka is trolling.

@Empire I never said that the taxes that went directly to welfare were the issue. :) It's all the taxes combined that can make it difficult, of course. Also I don't see property tax on that chart--like for cars and what not? Is it included in one of those categories?

"THERE IS A HUGE PROBLEM WITH INCOME AND WEALTH DISPARITY IN THIS COUNTRY"

"THE RICH IN THIS COUNTRY DON'T PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE OF TAXES, WHICH ARE BASED ON A PROGRESSIVE TAX POLICY CHARGING THEM A HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF THEIR LARGER AMOUNT OF MONEY"

What the ***

MeIody says

All this article has told me is that low income families pay "virtually" no taxes. What it doesn't say is that even small taxes affect these families a lot!

Yeah, and what about those small business who make no money. They have to pay huge taxes on their profits, and that really screws them over =(. We should introduce D.A.R.T. programs into our schools across the nation (Dare to resist taxes.)

Yeah what Malaka said is really spot on, despite if many people disagree based on what is always being spewed to us. I disagree that they shouldn't vote, though. I doubt many on welfare care about voting more than their welfare checks.

MeIody says

Empire you realllllly need to chill.

I'm not angry at all. I don't know where you got that impression.

The estate tax is not the big picture in it.



This is the most useful picture, as it shows the approximate combined taxrate of the lowest quintile.

Less than 5% (For some higher, for some lower) for every tax is not bad at all, and the services that buys you is more than worth the less than 5% of your income. (Roads, Social Security, Medicaid/care, police, welfare, numerous misc state/fed services)

The idea being that being taxed into a dangerous spot is not nearly as serious as you make it out to be because it's either nonexistent or would be worse without the taxes.

MeIody says

KHNM I totally didn't say that! I don't think only the rich should be taxed, for sure. :)

Empire was showing you that most money is taken from people not even close to the verge of welfare, in direct refutation of your claim that giving to the very-needy hurts the little-bit-needy too much. that's the point.