Epicmafia

New Roles

about 7 years

Hello everyone! I would like to ask the people who are interested in this event to participate and contribute as much as possible.

In order for 2 new roles to be added to em, the community has to work together to refine the ideas that are going to be mentioned below. We have to collectively select 2 of the best ideas and make sure their version is the best one possible. The next step would be to come up with some sort of artwork for the selected roles. Lucid mentioned something about rewarding the users behind the artwork that would get selected in the end for those 2 roles.

Jack the Ripper (originally Hypocrite)

Jack the Ripper hates anyone who kills.
Jack the Ripper only wins when the game ends and all murderers are dead.
If Jack the Ripper receives a gun or knife and kills someone with it, he will not consider himself a murderer.
To Jack the Ripper, murderers are killing roles or any other player that has successfully eliminated someone else (shot, stabbed, blown up, etc.)
If a player survives one of these actions, Jack the Ripper will not consider the attacker a murderer. (~Jennings)

Cat Lady

Chooses one player every night. The player is instantly alerted that a cat is at their door. They have two options: Kill the cat, and let it go. If you kill the cat, you are roleblocked and the Cat Lady doesn't know who was visited. If you let it go, the Cat Lady learns your role.
Sided with the mafia. (~Her)

Robinhood

Visits two people, taking all items from the first and giving them to the second (cannot visit self either way)
Action fails if trying to steal from a mafia
Sided with the village (~Torreador)

Vice President

If the president dies, takes their place
All townies immediately receive a message of their new president
Attends mafia meetings, and makes them anonymous
Cannot win if they are the vice president (~Alyssa)

Gossiper

Chooses one person every night.
Will see some whispers this person receives/makes.
Gossiper's action does not count as a visit.
Sided with the mafia. (~Soluciones)

(revising) the Seer

Knows all mafia from the beginning of the game.
If lynched at the end of the game, the last mafia can guess who the Seer is for autowin.
If the Seer dies, they will appear as a random (non-mafia) role in the setup and their will will always be blank. If dead, the mafia can still attempt a guess to the Seer's identity at the end of the game.
If there are multiple Seers in a game, only one Seer will know the mafia at any given time.
If there are two mafias and multiple Seers, the knowledge of the mafias will be split between them.
Sided with the village. (~Shwartz99)

Whistleblower

Once per game can force someone to vote someone else. Vote cannot be OT'D if it is a hammer. Sided with maf (Will create more tension in selfing/hammering based setups (~Moldyches)

Soldier

If they are the last man standing against a single mafia or third party, the village wins.
Sided with the village. (~XFire)

PowerTown

Each night chooses a power role from the options provided to him. (the mods should determine the list)
Night meeting goes accordingly
Sided with the village

PowerMafia

Each night chooses a mafia role from the list.
Night meeting goes accordingly
Sided with the mafia

Golbolco

almost 7 years

SteelixMega says

There are other roles like Hunter, doppelganger (nomad) and insomniac (sleepwalker, but different), but I think that those would confuse the game a bit too much

I've seen Insomniac before, I remember liking it. But I think it would require the list of players to be randomized, no?

Golbolco

almost 7 years

Not a fan of the name "Switcher" because I can't imagine how to sprite that.

SteelixMega

almost 7 years

There are a total of 6-10 players with cards, plus 3 cards in the middle. They are of a set. There must be at least one mafia card outside the middle.

6 players: 2 mafia, 2 villager, Templar, detective, Troublemaker, traitor, Switcher

7: 6+fool

8: 7+Amnesiac

9: 8+templar

10: 9+mafia

Mafia 2: sided with the mafia. Wakes up first at night. If any member of the mafia is lynched, they lose.

Traitor 2: sided with the mafia, but not a member. Their meeting has no visits or actions, it only reveals the mafia.

Templar 2: sided with the village. Wakes up between traitor 2 and detective 2. All Templars in meeting are revealed.

Detective 2: sided with the village. Chooses either a player's card, or two center cards. Choosing reveals the role underneath them, instantly.

Switcher (old maid mechanics, but not a good name here): sided with the village. Chooses one player to switch cards with. Switcher sees their new role.

Troublemaker (exclusive to this setup): sided with the village. Chooses two players to switch roles. This switch does not reveal roles.

Fool 2 (doesn't have town win condition): wins if they get lynched.

Amnesiac 2: switches role with a role in the center. Takes that role.

shayneismyname

almost 7 years

Small bug: Ok I'm not sure if you made it so mastermind can't have a sidekick or something, but I've never seen that happen before. But I was just in a game where I was sidekick but had no meeting (I was alone) and was so confused. It turns out my I was the Usurper's sidekick.

SteelixMega

almost 7 years

There are other roles like Hunter, doppelganger (nomad) and insomniac (sleepwalker, but different), but I think that those would confuse the game a bit too much

SteelixMega

almost 7 years

If you don't understand the One Night Ultimate werewolf game, check this out

https://www.fgbradleys.com/rules/rules2/OneNightUltimateWerewolf-rules.pdf

If you need a video or something, search it up on YouTube.

SteelixMega

almost 7 years

SteelixMega says

The roles are like this:

WW Villager-sided with village
WW Werewolf-sided with the werewolf. If werewolf is lynched during the day, town wins.
WW Minion-wins with werewolf, but does not lose if lynched.
WW Seer-during night, sees one other person's card, or 2 of the 3 cards in the middle. Sided with village
WW Mason-Wake up at night to see other masons. Sided with village
WW Robber-Switches roles with someone and checks their new role over the night.
WW Troublemaker-Switches two cards, one must be a card in front of a player. Sided with the village.
WW Tanner-Wins if gets killed at end of day.
WW Drunk-switches his role with random card in the center. Sided with the card they have.

So, there are at least 6 players, so a minimum of 9 cards. Three go in the center and belong to no one.

Starting set: 2 Werewolf, 2 Villager, Seer, Robber, Troublemaker, Mason, Minion

7 players, add another Mason
8 players, add another **drunk
9 players, add another **tanner
10 players, add another Werewolf

Werewolf is Mafia 2 (meets, doesn't kill)
Villager is still Villager
Minion is Traitor 2 (reveals mafia 2 to them)
Seer is Detective 2 (instant report)
Mason is Templar 2 (meeting without action)
Robber is Switcher
Troublemaker (I like that name, this would probs be an exclusive to this gamemode because if there were mafias switched to town, they would out their partners)
Tanner is Fool
Drunk is Amnesiac 2 (chooses card in the middle, nobody dies)

SteelixMega

almost 7 years

admin says

SteelixMega says

admin says

Golbolco says

I had Tomatobot PM me and ask to post this idea for them since they can't post on the forums:

"I can't post on that thread but - add a mode which users can't see their roles during the day, to allow roles which switch other peoples or their own roles, would be cool."

I really like this idea. Call it "self-doubt" or something like that?

ohh, but they will still see which meeting they are in and deduce who they are?

it would give something at first, you do that meeting, and then it unreveals because you might be something else. That would be good in role switching

that's interesting, maybe flesh it out a bit more with Golbolco, could probably replicate the mechanics of One Night really easily by having an extra role or two that does swapping

if you want to make a game type that does that, it should probably have a toggle that changes the rules/mechanics, so instead of Detective 1 (investigate at night, get report at day), the One Night Stand mode toggles to Detective 2 (investigate to get report instantly).

Golbolco

almost 7 years

Steelix, if you post a list of the One Night roles that we don't have analogues for (mostly the swapping ones) then we can start working to replicate it.

SteelixMega

almost 7 years

Golbolco says

For Self-Doubt: I'm thinking the meeting should always just be a blank meeting, even for roles that don't take action. Then once they get their reports or figure out from deduction what their action is or isn't, they figure out their roles. Oracles and crystals would still be able to play a role in this setup.

For One Night, I might actually have a role that could help flesh it out:

Mermaid:
-The Mermaid does not want to be a mermaid anymore.
-The mermaid is assigned a random role in the setup that they want to be. They visit one person at night to take their role.
-If the mermaid guesses correctly, they swap roles.
-The new mermaid will be assigned a new role they want to be and the cycle continues.
-If the mermaid guesses incorrectly, they die.
-Cannot win unless the siren is also in the game and wins.

it was good ww/maid mix, up until the part about the siren. That was too far.

Golbolco

almost 7 years

For Self-Doubt: I'm thinking the meeting should always just be a blank meeting, even for roles that don't take action. Then once they get their reports or figure out from deduction what their action is or isn't, they figure out their roles. Oracles and crystals would still be able to play a role in this setup.

For One Night, I might actually have a role that could help flesh it out:

Mermaid:
-The Mermaid does not want to be a mermaid anymore.
-The mermaid is assigned a random role in the setup that they want to be. They visit one person at night to take their role.
-If the mermaid guesses correctly, they swap roles.
-The new mermaid will be assigned a new role they want to be and the cycle continues.
-If the mermaid guesses incorrectly, they die.
-Cannot win unless the siren is also in the game and wins.

deletedalmost 7 years

hello admin please make it so that we can delete alts with less than 1k points :)

admin

almost 7 years

SteelixMega says

admin says

Golbolco says

I had Tomatobot PM me and ask to post this idea for them since they can't post on the forums:

"I can't post on that thread but - add a mode which users can't see their roles during the day, to allow roles which switch other peoples or their own roles, would be cool."

I really like this idea. Call it "self-doubt" or something like that?

ohh, but they will still see which meeting they are in and deduce who they are?

it would give something at first, you do that meeting, and then it unreveals because you might be something else. That would be good in role switching

that's interesting, maybe flesh it out a bit more with Golbolco, could probably replicate the mechanics of One Night really easily by having an extra role or two that does swapping

SteelixMega

almost 7 years

admin says

Golbolco says

I had Tomatobot PM me and ask to post this idea for them since they can't post on the forums:

"I can't post on that thread but - add a mode which users can't see their roles during the day, to allow roles which switch other peoples or their own roles, would be cool."

I really like this idea. Call it "self-doubt" or something like that?

ohh, but they will still see which meeting they are in and deduce who they are?

it would give something at first, you do that meeting, and then it unreveals because you might be something else. That would be good in role switching

shayneismyname

almost 7 years

SteelixMega says

Lucid you like the idea of One Night Stand?

SteelixMega

almost 7 years

Lucid you like the idea of One Night Stand?

admin

almost 7 years

Golbolco says

I had Tomatobot PM me and ask to post this idea for them since they can't post on the forums:

"I can't post on that thread but - add a mode which users can't see their roles during the day, to allow roles which switch other peoples or their own roles, would be cool."

I really like this idea. Call it "self-doubt" or something like that?

ohh, but they will still see which meeting they are in and deduce who they are?

GrannyPixel

almost 7 years

I can't believe the Graverobber role doesn't exist already.

SteelixMega

almost 7 years

Rip but do y'all agree that this idea for ONUW or One Night Stand is a good idea for a gamemode/mode?

SteelixMega

almost 7 years

Is this page 100?

shayneismyname

almost 7 years

How does rolling roles work? I roll roles twice in a row way too often for it to be truly random.

Golbolco

almost 7 years

I had Tomatobot PM me and ask to post this idea for them since they can't post on the forums:

"I can't post on that thread but - add a mode which users can't see their roles during the day, to allow roles which switch other peoples or their own roles, would be cool."

I really like this idea. Call it "self-doubt" or something like that?

deletedalmost 7 years

Can we make the partyhost party votes stick when they're voted.

I just played a game and people spamming it makes it impossible to shoot with party crasher...

SteelixMega

almost 7 years

Golbolco says

Seems to me like we already have most of the necessary roles. It's been a while since I played One Night, what don't we have?

as I said, according to the mechanics of switching roles, and instant knowing of roles (robber, seer, drunk), role mechanics need to be edited.

Golbolco

almost 7 years

Seems to me like we already have most of the necessary roles. It's been a while since I played One Night, what don't we have?