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instead of complaining about how EM is dying let's do something productive and post ideas to save it. Feel free to use this topic to suggest things or discuss the suggestions. Post flooding will make you muted.

(Meme/less serious) answers will be in red

Bolded topics are headers or further readings. Feel free to bump them. I'll add anything posted in the comments.


Overall/coding:

  • Active site development(Golbolco) Page 1
  • Better advertising(Golbolco) P1
  • Social media platform(dooze) P2
  • Mobile app(warriormilk) P1
  • Higher variety to spend tokens (Jimbei)
  • EM premium (Jimbei)
  • Profile pets (sigh) P1

Games:

Moderation:

Community and forums:

  • Lower toxicity to maintain playerbase(Golbolco) P1
  • Stop noavi mistreatment(Lancaster) P1
  • further reading https://epicmafia.com/topic/81345
  • more noavi mistreatment (BillyHerrington) P3
  • Less report on new players(Blood4bloodgod) P2
  • No point requirement to post in complaints and bugs(cub) P10
  • Stop post flooding (Jimbei) P9
  • Site mascot (Merlot)
  • Annual EM fanart competition (Cub) P10

I never thought of that!

  • Pretend it's not dead(Negra) P1
  • Moderate the Furry(Bruno) P1
  • Put all our trust in Jamal(Plissken) and give him back ownership(Jamal) P1/P3
  • Give adminship to xxerox(xxerox) P9
  • Just let it die(bibty) P2
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If there were more people on the moderator team who were decent and fought for whats right , even if that costs them being moderators, then this site would be much better place.
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i voice my own opinions and youre not allowed to
- bebop 2017
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the poll decision wasn't made by edark, it was mostly lono if i remember
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Just say you are scared that if you go agaisnt edark publically against every bad decision he makes, you will be demoded, and you are just scared to lose that position.
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There is, because if you say it privatly, no one cares, but if you say it publically so every person to see it, they would think you are a decent moderator who supports the people rather than edark.
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i don't think there's a discernible difference whether i told them that epicmafia polls were unreliable publicly or privately.
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You never made a topic saying : The polls are unreliable. I am a moderator and i do not aprove of this.

or anything to say they were unreliable and no matter the result, you would not agree with the decision.
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Again, you didn't tell it openly.
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i did tell them it was unreliable, but so are just about any methods of polling.
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Bebop says


xxerox says

Bebop, I want to go back on the Masked games topic.

The poll was Biased, we all know that.

This was the wrong way to do it.

I think it would have been best if you guys chose 10 random NEW users who have played competitive at least once and ask them, instead of people who use 30 alts to upvote their favourite answer.


sure i 100% agree with you. epicmafia polls are absolutely unreliable but that's the decision the mods in charge of that (not me, for the record) decided on. they decided on it knowing that it could or would be rigged but it could be rigged for either side. i suggest if you really want this to be continued with to discuss this somewhere else in main lobby forums because sandbox isn't really the place.





Bebop says

i'm not sure which situations specifically you're talking about, but i do voice my own opinions rather than the opinions of other mods or the admins.




Where were you when the polss were made?

Couln't you said : Edark, Stop, This is really unreliable and can go any way. - Somewhere on the main forum?
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i'm not sure which situations specifically you're talking about, but i do voice my own opinions rather than the opinions of other mods or the admins.
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Sandbox is just a place like any other place.

We are on the same site.

Site related isues can be discussed anywhere on or outside the site.

The problem here is that we want more players and ways to fix the site.
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@Bebop

Is it that hard the moderators who do not agree with something to voice themselves agains the admins?

Why something has to happen, then after that you guys to say you were against it the whole time, but it passed already and you couldn't do anything ;-;


If i was a moderator, i would have saidwhat is wrong, openly , so everyone to hear it.
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xxerox says

Bebop, I want to go back on the Masked games topic.

The poll was Biased, we all know that.

This was the wrong way to do it.

I think it would have been best if you guys chose 10 random NEW users who have played competitive at least once and ask them, instead of people who use 30 alts to upvote their favourite answer.


sure i 100% agree with you. epicmafia polls are absolutely unreliable but that's the decision the mods in charge of that (not me, for the record) decided on. they decided on it knowing that it could or would be rigged but it could be rigged for either side. i suggest if you really want this to be continued with to discuss this somewhere else in main lobby forums because sandbox isn't really the place.
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xxerox says


Bebop says

absolutely.

i kinda understand where xxerox is coming from but we're at a fundamental disagreement, i don't think mods should be always stern, serious paragons of virtue. i would much rather have more personal, friendly mods who can make jokes and have fun with the community but still be the serious, stern fellows that xxerox wants, but only when the situation calls for it.


And this is why the community is so bad. We are past the point where you guys have to be lenient to everyone.

If someone starts harrasing others and is a mod, he should be removed. Not warned really nicely to stop, and then he to continue trolling on the forums instead (Talking about Whitepimp here.)

If an user is being harrased, you don't go ignoring it, because you have to be lenient about it.

If there is something wrong you don't have to ignore it because it will cause unnecesary drama.


i agree with this for the most part, but i think what we both define as things that should be acted upon are different. i do think leniency is better in general though, as super tight rules tend to turn a lot of people away, if they aren't banned for breaking the super tight rules to begin with.
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Bebop, I want to go back on the Masked games topic.

The poll was Biased, we all know that.

This was the wrong way to do it.

I think it would have been best if you guys chose 10 random NEW users who have played competitive at least once and ask them, instead of people who use 30 alts to upvote their favourite answer.
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You guys have to be stern when it counts on it. But even then you are not.
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Bebop says

absolutely.

i kinda understand where xxerox is coming from but we're at a fundamental disagreement, i don't think mods should be always stern, serious paragons of virtue. i would much rather have more personal, friendly mods who can make jokes and have fun with the community but still be the serious, stern fellows that xxerox wants, but only when the situation calls for it.


And this is why the community is so bad. We are past the point where you guys have to be lenient to everyone.

If someone starts harrasing others and is a mod, he should be removed. Not warned really nicely to stop, and then he to continue trolling on the forums instead (Talking about Whitepimp here.)

If an user is being harrased, you don't go ignoring it, because you have to be lenient about it.

If there is something wrong you don't have to ignore it because it will cause unnecesary drama.
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I feel that either things should have either been kept to a certain standard from the start or just kept how it currently is. I disagree with Edark's adminship completely but there's no harm in fun adminship, as long as moderation is efficient, however xxerox the userbase is now established in very to little no moderation on them, certainly in sandbox lobby, aside from harassment usually from already banned users. Since there's this mentality forcing things to be super serious will only lose more users who have stuck to the loosely moderated site

but at the same time I must admit there IS mistreatment towards xxerox, I know it's banter for mods but anything he says is almost always instantly disregarded on the grounds of him being xxerox, making sense or not

the nature of this conversation was mostly talking in circles but if we can bring this back to something with more focus that would be great
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but I'm sorry that you see me as trying to make fun of you xxerox, that's not my intention
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absolutely.

i kinda understand where xxerox is coming from but we're at a fundamental disagreement, i don't think mods should be always stern, serious paragons of virtue. i would much rather have more personal, friendly mods who can make jokes and have fun with the community but still be the serious, stern fellows that xxerox wants, but only when the situation calls for it.
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"Im just joking around dude" level of seriousness >.>
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Pineapple on pizza levels of serious?
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Jimbei says

xxerox, I appreciate your concerns but it's obvious that the mods are pulling your leg because you're barely making sense and are not speaking in an approachable or sensible manner. I implore you to go make a mega-topic about it fully listing out a list of incidents instead of talking in circles here. Thank you.


I'm being serious
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I rather not. There is no point. If people don't listen to me now, they won't listen me no matter how big of a topic i make.