Epicmafia

The Current State Of Sandbox

over 7 years

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Alright, over the course of two weeks much has happened, and I'm wondering why we're still in this situation where we have to carousel power from one to another and since this is ending up as a stand still I'll be the first one to make a move and say it here and now since this is like a circus of bonobo's.

What is being done right now?

We still have no word as to who will be the next owner of Sandbox, and it seems like it's being delayed as much as possible for someone to keep their power as it's been baton passed to them. It's concerning that Merlot passed the powers to someone who has had their power evicted from in the past, and shouldn't have had them passed down when there are clearly better contestants that are faithful to this Lobby. ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ [The Mod Team]

How long will it take, it shouldn't be this long..

I can see where you want to find the best contestants to bestow the power of this Lobby upon, but this is getting less and less believable that you truly want to give a respectable person power, delaying this process is getting more and more suspicious as it seems someone wants to stay in power with their little group. ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍
We want a date now as of who will be chosen and don't say you dare say, "I'm still deciding."

EDIT/TLDR: What was going on?

We want results, do something!

11 signed

We, the people of Sandbox want results and not excuses.

Have we had enough?

Yes

It's time to stop, okay? No more!

Ben

over 7 years

if you really want to get away from discrimination stop going on crusades about how everyone is discriminating against you and just play the fu cking online mafia simulator

Parudoks

over 7 years

blood4bloodgod says

Guys, this is a gat damn video game. How the hell are you being marginalized and discriminated against. Someone has to have institutional power to marginalize you; your rights have to be infringed. Getting killed n1 in a video game is not an infringement of your rights. Getting called a cuck on some chat wall, like the rest of us have, is not an infringement of your rights.

Being told you're less than human, that you should be wiped off the face of this planet, that your religion is a cult, that you don't deserve to be in this country, etc. etc.

"Cuck" and being n1'd aren't racism or the discrimination im referring to

Ben

over 7 years

Parudoks says

It's amazing that you can't understand why people who are discriminated against and marginalized in every aspect of their life would want to have their free time be free of it. It's very easy to not be racist, but no let's just force the victims to deal with it.

your free time might be free of it if you weren't so over-sensitive and irritating

MrMongrel

over 7 years

cub says

Parudoks says

Playing Mafia has nothing to do with intolerance.

lynching mafia for being "the other" is a metaphor for peace, harmony, and acceptance

swing and a miss

cub

over 7 years

Parudoks says

It's amazing that you can't understand why people who are discriminated against and marginalized in every aspect of their life would want to have their free time be free of it. It's very easy to not be racist, but no let's just force the victims to deal with it.

if i wanted to be disingenuous i could say it's amazing you don't understand how you're FEEDING discrimination by proving that it holds power over you. did you miss the whole part about how I was once harassed, stopped letting it get to me, and was no longer harassed? not just that I no longer cared about it, because I did, but because it actually went away because bullies gained nothing from it anymore

blood4bloodgod

over 7 years

Guys, this is a gat damn video game. How the hell are you being marginalized and discriminated against. Someone has to have institutional power to marginalize you; your rights have to be infringed. Getting killed n1 in a video game is not an infringement of your rights. Getting called a cuck on some chat wall, like the rest of us have, is not an infringement of your rights.

SirAmelio

over 7 years

i cant believe i started all this drama with an ironic post starting with "xd"

Ben

over 7 years

cub says

Parudoks says

Playing Mafia has nothing to do with intolerance.

lynching mafia for being "the other" is a metaphor for peace, harmony, and acceptance

cub buddy this is a stretch and you know it

cub

over 7 years

Parudoks says

cub says

Parudoks says

Playing Mafia has nothing to do with intolerance.

lynching mafia for being "the other" is a metaphor for peace, harmony, and acceptance

If I recall correctly, most games begin with the mafia murdering a townie first. They're not being lynched for being the other, they're being lynched for attacking the town.

and why do they attack the town? oddly, mafia never seems to attack members of their in-group. they (literally) can't bring themselves to attack anyone but the other

Parudoks

over 7 years

It's amazing that you can't understand why people who are discriminated against and marginalized in every aspect of their life would want to have their free time be free of it. It's very easy to not be racist, but no let's just force the victims to deal with it.

cub

over 7 years

Parudoks says

Yes, because being N1'd is definitely the same as having your race, religion, and identity discriminated against.

granted, i was never one of those people who share every intricate detail of their personal lives on the internet. i suppose an entire community wanting to get rid of me for who i am and not what i am is pretty platonic and i should be thankful for their tolerance when treating me like trash

Parudoks

over 7 years

cub says

Parudoks says

Playing Mafia has nothing to do with intolerance.

lynching mafia for being "the other" is a metaphor for peace, harmony, and acceptance

If I recall correctly, most games begin with the mafia murdering a townie first. They're not being lynched for being the other, they're being lynched for attacking the town.

deletedover 7 years

I'll reply to it 1 by 1 if we're gonna rumble

yes because trying to make someone seem dumb or like scum is equivalent to trying to make them feel bad through the most vulgar terms possible about their religion or orientation

You can feel free to reply to the rest of my post on harassment instead of just nit picking, unless you agree with the other part which is great

Glad we can agree on banned users, I'm arguing all the rules if you've seen

I've said exploit abuse should be a game violation because they only apply to ranked games, not unranked.

Also I don't have the right to discriminate but inappropriate content in almost all cases that I've seen it was borderline X-rated materials. I'm kinkshaming really hard right now.

cub

over 7 years

Parudoks says

Playing Mafia has nothing to do with intolerance.

lynching mafia for being "the other" is a metaphor for peace, harmony, and acceptance

Parudoks

over 7 years

cub says

now stop grandstanding. and did you just call me a racist? really, now? hyperbolic ad hominem much? so defending someone's free speech is agreeing with it as far as you're concerned? okay stalin

I didn't call you a racist. I was using second person.

cub says

also, i don't know about you, but i was harassed on this site way back when. far more than i've seen you go through, constantly, i really couldn't play through a game because enough of the community hated me that i would always die n1 or d1 if i was lucky. i won a lot of games as fool, though

Just because you don't see me getting harassed doesn't mean I'm not. I deal with racist sh!t all day long, and then come back here to more racist sh!t , constantly, every single day.

cub says

by the way this is a game about lynching, murder, and manipulation

you're really choosing to set up your hobble here?

I don't see harassment, racism, or bigotry in there, so I don't get your point. Playing Mafia has nothing to do with intolerance.

cub says

also, i don't know about you, but i was harassed on this site way back when. far more than i've seen you go through, constantly, i really couldn't play through a game because enough of the community hated me that i would always die n1 or d1 if i was lucky. i won a lot of games as fool, though

Yes, because being N1'd is definitely the same as having your race, religion, and identity discriminated against.

Ben says

how did parudoks post get any upvotes thats the stupidest thing i've ever read

Lol okay Ben.

cub

over 7 years

Jimbei says

Bypassing suspensions should be purely situational, exploit abuse should be a game violation, Impersonation is obvious, Inappropriate avatar/bio/content/name + x-rated stops this community from truly devolving into deviancy

exploit abuse got me permabanned once, probably banned another time, and at least one or two violations. do you want me gone because i made 100 player games that briefly drew the community together?

also who are you to define deviancy and why should you have the right to discriminate where others can't

cub

over 7 years

Jimbei says

HC protects users from hate speech because they and the groups they are in are constantly degraded and de-humanized I think it's obvious that they just want to use a website to have some fun with a few games without people constantly breathing down their necks saying whatever they can to upset the users

dehumanization is literally in the game: mafia are scum, subhuman
everyone is breathing down eachothers necks in mafia, it's a game of suspicion and absolute paranoia

It's not that hard to not say a few select words or to dehumanize entire groups of people, it really isn't. While you are apathetic on EM other people aren't, but if you don't HC then there shouldn't be a problem, and you don't, so you shouldn't be affected by it.

i don't stand up for things only because they affect me, that's not a stable grounds for any principles

if you're banned then make an alt as you've suggested, same with every other rule, as long as they're not using it to continue it. Some people do use EM as a platform to creep on others and lure them offsite but besides that banned users usually just come back wanting to play some games and understanding what they did wrong((usually)), either way you can rack up multiple violations before a ban so

yes that's what i said, banned users don't pose a threat on the basis of being banned users but only if they do something wrong which then doesn't matter if they're banned

Ben

over 7 years

cub shoots poor innocent muslims via epicmafia.com until they are dead

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Jimbei says

deletedover 7 years

cub is pretty much a terrorist at this point

deletedover 7 years

free thelastchromosome

Ben

over 7 years

how did parudoks post get any upvotes thats the stupidest thing i've ever read

cub

over 7 years

by the way this is a game about lynching, murder, and manipulation

you're really choosing to set up your hobble here?

cub

over 7 years

Parudoks says

as for hc, you only strengthen it by allowing it to influence you and sheltering yourself from it. the reason people don't faint at the mention of f*ck is because we've exposed ourselves to it and now it's a meaningless word, whereas keeping with puritan tradition it would send people into a conniption fit. all "vulgar" language follows this basic rule

You do realize people actually die right? How many times has a Muslim or a Sikh been called a terrorist before being shot to death, when they were just trying to enjoy their day? We can't accept that behavior where we put others down, call them inferior, and make them feel like they don't belong. You aren't being harassed constantly by HC every day, it's more than words. Someone can be assaulted in the morning for being Trans gendered, then come home later and try to unwind on EM only to be put down again.

You want to be racist? The internet is a large place, there are plenty of forums for you to be a bigot. But not here. Not where I'm trying to get away from all that crap.

never heard of a random middle eastern being called a terrorist by one person and consequently murdered by another. ever. and that's offline where people can actually do things, this is the internet

also, i don't know about you, but i was harassed on this site way back when. far more than i've seen you go through, constantly, i really couldn't play through a game because enough of the community hated me that i would always die n1 or d1 if i was lucky. i won a lot of games as fool, though

that doesn't happen anymore, and it isn't because em is a safe space now but because i stopped reacting to it and it wasn't fun to bully me anymore

now stop grandstanding. and did you just call me a racist? really, now? hyperbolic ad hominem much? so defending someone's free speech is agreeing with it as far as you're concerned? okay stalin

MrMongrel

over 7 years

nah