Sexism and racism is inherently linked to power, in such a way that women can't (really) be sexist towards men, and black people can't (really) be racist towards white people.
Yes there are exceptions, I don't want someone to bring up some 3,000 year old civilization that was dominated by black people where they had more privilege.
Racism and sexism are inherently a privilege issue, you can bring up all the cases you want of hate crimes against men from extremists or hate crimes against white people from black people - but it's not racism.
It's discrimination.
If you want to make a case against this then you can prove that women have more privilege than men, or that black people have more privilege than white people.
Maybe it's sad to say that this is primarily the american scope that I'm speaking of, I'm an american so I'm more in tune with american politics and the racial scope in this area.
well, i think that a lot of people assume that racism is only racism if someone wears a KKK robe and says "i'm being racist!", but i think racism can occur in a lot of smaller, simple ways that people aren't aware of
but the stigma of being called a "racist" makes people very defensive when they might be accused of being one, and i get it
it's possible that that kind of thing happens, but it's hard for me to honestly be sure since i come from a conservative town where is a LOT of casual bigotry/dislike toward people who are LGBT
if that kind of thing exists where people exaggerated their victimization, it is difficult for me to see because the community i come from is so ingrained in not being a fan of LGBT
racism is such a gross subject to talk about because the vast majority of people don't see themselves as racist
i just wish the word wasn't thrown around as lightly as it is, it's a really damaging and harmful term
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Right, I could be wrong about this, and I'm not saying that hate crimes don't happen or that they aren't a real problem, but do you not think that it's possible that LGBT persons also have an exaggerated sense of victimization and that they most likely socialize in similar groups like all other humans do and sensationalize their experienced prejudice?
for the record, i think empathy is important, and that demonizing people is bad. we should understand that trump won in spite of the fact that he outs racist/bigoted rhetoric, and we should be concerned about that.
we can be honest about many people in our country being racist while still trying to change minds/hearts.
i would argue that it probably seems bizarre to you because you aren't part of the group that would be impacted/experience harassment as a result of trump's victory
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I don't have any empirical evidence to back up those thoughts though, so if you disagree and have something thoughtful to point out about it I'd love to hear, but c'est la vie.
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trump supporters generally value a technocracy where positions are handed out by merit
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I think that the depressing solution for many of the social issues in the United States are that they just can't be fixed in the immediate.
Old white people, who essentially run the country, have at the very least slight racist views and there isn't any easy way to reach out and change their views en masse.
The reality of the situation, in my mind at least, is that the best thing that can be done is to actively exhibit empathy towards everyone and try to teach younger generations to not be prejudiced.
i also don't think people who were/are afraid of hate crimes have no reason to feel like that and i don't think i ever argued that, and if i did i'm sorry and i don't believe that
i more think that there won't be very many damaging policies put in place for lgbt people/women aside from the defunding of planned parenthood, and on a local level people shouldn't feel very afraid if they have any faith in their communities
it's also 3 in the morning and i started taking this seriously at 2:30 so nothing i said has been coherent at all
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Put yourself in the mindset of mid 50's white people who grew up where 90% of the population was white. It was not only legal, acceptable, but ENCOURAGED to be openly racist and prejudiced towards those that weren't straight and white, and think about the current social climate.
To say that they need to be held 'accountable' sounds like they should be punished somehow which I believe to be wrong. They're just products of their culture and how they were raised. And I don't say that to mean that their actions or behavior is acceptable, just that I think most people should practice some empathy towards understanding why things are how they are.
this got wildly derailed but my original point was that i think people voted for trump because they were tired of being bent over by the democrats for 8 years, and 4-8 years from now when they're tired of being bent over by the republicans they'll probably switch back
i just don't think this was a normal enough election to generalize all trump as bigots, there were too many factors that could influence individual peoples' opinions. for a lot of people it came down to the lesser of two evils and i don't think you should demonize people just for choosing the evil you didn't choose
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I don't see any distinction in the breakdown of what the hate crimes were but none of the examples list physical assaults or violence, just intimidation.
"The graffiti, which read, “Can’t stump the Trump, Mexicans,” was reported to police Tuesday morning on a garage."
I don't think we'll see eye-to-eye on this subject.
It seems a bit bizarre to believe that people should be outright scared for the lives because a racist man won the election. It'd rally that, that much is apparent, but physical assault is a big leap from words or even other unlawful things like graffiti.
i don't know how much of a change they will see because since im a privileged white kid i'm not extremely in-tune with how the lives of minorities have changed, but my initial point was that people were sincerely afraid after the election results, which i think is a valid thing to feel
trump voters supported trump, therefore they are trump supporters. i don't know if they are racist, but i do know racism and bigotry are not deal breakers for them, and i do know that because of them. racism and bigotry are winning political strategies in mainstream american politics, and they need to be held accountable for that
the college im at is probably less high-risk for hate crimes than most places, but it was still an understandable fear to be concerned for assaults/hate crimes because of the election results.
it's also likely that hate crimes as a national average will go up because of donald trump's attitude, but i don't think there will be any damaging policies put in place that aren't concerned with immigration
yeah, i honestly find it ridiculous to imply that minorities shouldn't be afraid of assaults/hate crimes against them in light of a man who spouts that kind of rhetoric being elected to the highest office in our country
over night was probably the biggest jump in hate crimes just because tension was at an all time high, and i'd assume most people likely to commit a hate crime came out of the woodwork when their god-savior got elected
