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https://epicmafia.com/report/194216

This is the most clear cut not to mention disgusting HC I've ever seen on the site and you just no vio'd it. This is unrelated to the harassment violation I didn't even request be given, which was given for an entirely different thread. The fact that I initially banned thecolonel for this (which is still what should happen, but I digress) is completely irrelevant. It's disgusting that you think the only appropriate violation for this entire affair is a single warning and that he shouldn't even be marked down for hateful comments.

Edit: I appreciate people backing me up on this but I've made my point clearly and the mod team as a whole apparently disagrees. It's regrettable this kind of hate speech isn't dealt with more severely. However, there's no point in bickering further if the mods feel rule technicalities trumps all.

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Just thought of a pretty good trade. Ban Thecolonel and Becomeclear, and unban me and abc
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I mean that from a viewpoint not related to this very instance, rather that he isn't being fickle.
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You and everyone else who has made a topic like this, nat. The mods are held accountable to the whims of the userbase, and I think edark is right in sticking to his decision regardless.
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she unbanned it, i played a game with her then she rebanned it
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Quest says

i bypassed my ban the other day on the phyzix account but that was because expose unbanned it so i thought i was unbanned. edark said im a site banned user with the privilege of being able to play in sandbox/vivor, so i guess i can bypass and only the bypassing account gets banned. i feel pretty indestructible here lol


huh wait a minute......
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I disagree, I guess

I hope you're doing well still tho
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summer of unban is past us
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i bypassed my ban the other day on the phyzix account but that was because expose unbanned it so i thought i was unbanned. edark said im a site banned user with the privilege of being able to play in sandbox/vivor, so i guess i can bypass and only the bypassing account gets banned. i feel pretty indestructible here lol
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Rutab says


Edark says


Rutab says


mist says


Edark says

Every user whom has harassed someone has technically commited both acts since harassment nearly always also covers HC.


Not even slightly, dude.


I agree with mist on this point


If I were to call someone an idiotic r*tard in a game and kept on doing it after he asked me to stop, would it fall under harassment or HC?

The answer is both, but he only gets harassment since that the more severe violation. There are TONS of cases like this were a person insults someone and get harassment while they could just as well have gotten HC. This is the reason originally why you're only supposed to get 1 violation per instance if I recall correctly.


I would give whichever is worse, but the point I am disagreeing you is when you said most Harassment is also HC.

I think most Harassment does not contain HC, thus, making your point slightly less relevant.


I dont have any proof of this statement, but Im very sure that most harassment cases, way beyond 50%, would also fall under the HC rule.
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Unban Dyl and abc
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Edark says


Rutab says


mist says


Edark says

Every user whom has harassed someone has technically commited both acts since harassment nearly always also covers HC.


Not even slightly, dude.


I agree with mist on this point


If I were to call someone an idiotic r*tard in a game and kept on doing it after he asked me to stop, would it fall under harassment or HC?

The answer is both, but he only gets harassment since that the more severe violation. There are TONS of cases like this were a person insults someone and get harassment while they could just as well have gotten HC. This is the reason originally why you're only supposed to get 1 violation per instance if I recall correctly.


I would give whichever is worse, but the point I am disagreeing you is when you said most Harassment is also HC.

I think most Harassment does not contain HC, thus, making your point slightly less relevant.
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Quest says

what if i refer to u as emil


hmm....
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Edark says

"This really illustrates the problem. A mod stopped an obvious gamethrowing account from ruining an extra 5 or so games but they was in the wrong. That's how your modding philosophy works. And you don't think there's a problem with that."

Leniency can often lead to misfortune at times, but I think at the grand scheme of things this modding philosophy of objectivity is the correct way to go.


It's deeply regrettable that you think so, because you're letting someone get away with something completely deplorable. That's sad.

I'm done here.
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what if i refer to u as emil
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Quest says

hey edark can i get unbanned from main wth a 1 vio leash?


lol no
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hey edark can i get unbanned from main wth a 1 vio leash?
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Rutab says


mist says


Edark says

Every user whom has harassed someone has technically commited both acts since harassment nearly always also covers HC.


Not even slightly, dude.


I agree with mist on this point


If I were to call someone an idiotic r*tard in a game and kept on doing it after he asked me to stop, would it fall under harassment or HC?

The answer is both, but he only gets harassment since that the more severe violation. There are TONS of cases like this were a person insults someone and get harassment while they could just as well have gotten HC. This is the reason originally why you're only supposed to get 1 violation per instance if I recall correctly.
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I don't know the level of harassment youve suffered but if mist has to make a thread for it and all, just give him a violation. Then delete the rule and if he does it again lock him out and he'll be free to harass people irl if he's so brave on the internet.
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While I think mist absolutely has the right to be offended, and thecolonel deserves a single violation for the thread, she might be slightly overreacting because this issue is one she is most passionate about. I would say, mist, you should take some time to collect your thoughts and take a breather, and everyone else needs to understand why this issue is being discussed the way it is.
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Retti says

I don't like how you're trying to make this about mod discrepancy, when the matter is more personal. Edark probably doesn't want to set a standard where people can ask to give others violations and then make threads like this when they don't. It's happened before and it will keep happening again.

I don't know what you're trying to accomplish at this rate. You need to let what colonel did to you go and maybe not look at the site for a bit nat, I'm worried about you.


I'm trying to make a point about how this website is moderated. There's a reason this site is known as one of the most toxic communities out there. I don't think it's OK that someone can say these things and get off with just a warning.
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Vedd says


Soluciones says

Edark do us a favor and delete harassment and HC. People offended can turn off the computer. And if it happens to be excessive it's on the ToS you can terminate their account.


Unfortunately, it's not that easy.


If you do not respect, I'm afraid you can actually deny access to the website to disrespectful people if they reach a certain level in the a$$h0le scale.
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mist says


Edark says

Every user whom has harassed someone has technically commited both acts since harassment nearly always also covers HC.


Not even slightly, dude.


I agree with mist on this point
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I don't like how you're trying to make this about mod discrepancy, when the matter is more personal. Edark probably doesn't want to set a standard where people can ask to give others violations and then make threads like this when they don't. It's happened before and it will keep happening again.

I don't know what you're trying to accomplish at this rate. You need to let what colonel did to you go and maybe not look at the site for a bit nat, I'm worried about you.
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"This really illustrates the problem. A mod stopped an obvious gamethrowing account from ruining an extra 5 or so games but they was in the wrong. That's how your modding philosophy works. And you don't think there's a problem with that."

Leniency can often lead to misfortune at times, but I think at the grand scheme of things this modding philosophy of objectivity is the correct way to go.