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https://epicmafia.com/report/194216

This is the most clear cut not to mention disgusting HC I've ever seen on the site and you just no vio'd it. This is unrelated to the harassment violation I didn't even request be given, which was given for an entirely different thread. The fact that I initially banned thecolonel for this (which is still what should happen, but I digress) is completely irrelevant. It's disgusting that you think the only appropriate violation for this entire affair is a single warning and that he shouldn't even be marked down for hateful comments.

Edit: I appreciate people backing me up on this but I've made my point clearly and the mod team as a whole apparently disagrees. It's regrettable this kind of hate speech isn't dealt with more severely. However, there's no point in bickering further if the mods feel rule technicalities trumps all.

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Retti says




we have a bingo on the middle row.
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we've almost hit bingo with orly's post
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someone questioned my rationalization of gender!! triggered!
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transgenders complaining about harassment / HC on epicmafia? what a twist
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Edark says


JeffreyAaron says


JeffreyAaron says

Current completely f**ked up admin opinion: "In the past the precedent was set that we won't give someone two vios for breaking two rules, but rather just one and a slap on the wrist for the other, therefore we will continue to follow this terrible precedent."

Or, better option:

"A user is harassing other users and using hateful comments, in the past this would be one violation, but we as a mod team believe that this was a bad precedent and we want to stop this kind of behavior so we will now punish both rules being broken rather than one."

Is this really that difficult?


I'll pose this to you without red text, Edark. I'd like a response to this. Why is option two bad?


Im having trouble keeping up with all the posts, but here goes. I think you're misunderstanding what actually happend so let me tell you in chronological order what took place:

Mist insulted thecolonel regarding him being unfunny or something silly and they had some banter. Thecolonel went quite overboard and as a moderator mist instantly forumsuspended him and told him to stop, aka gave out a verbal warning.

When his ban ran out he just made that huge thread about transsexuals and got an harassment violation for that.

What people now want is that I will give out an additional HC violation(or ban him but that wont happend) since thecolonel. As I've stated earlier you're only supposed to get 1 violation per instance(as in games you either get trolling or GT, not both or when you call someone a f*ggot multiple times even after they asked you get an harassment violation instead of HC.) which is why Im hesistant to dish out a second violation.


Nope, I followed all of that. I still think he deserves an HC vio and that the precedent of giving HC and harassment vios simultaneously is not a bad precedent.
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did you guys know military knives with more than two sides are banned by the Geneva Convention because the wounds made by anything with more sides are difficult to stitch and prone to infection?

i just learned that on Pawn Stars. man this show owns.
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Devante says

edark i propose a compromise:


publicly reveal the main of thecolonel and i will do something that will cause the community to forget about this whole thing for at least a day or two


Thecolonel could be Ian if he made the following:

Faked a skype conversation with Ian(or, himself I guess?)

Had saved up a recording of him playing with a player named Ian in 2014 while he streamed League of Legends.
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Edark says


VS9102 says

i wouldnt even bother jeffrey. edark is proving that he cares little for the community and just wants to keep his position by not flexing his adminly muscles in ways that could lose him brownie points with lucid


What? If anything this would cause me to lose "brownie points" with lucid.


Also true.
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VS9102 says

i wouldnt even bother jeffrey. edark is proving that he cares little for the community and just wants to keep his position by not flexing his adminly muscles in ways that could lose him brownie points with lucid


What? If anything this would cause me to lose "brownie points" with lucid.
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JeffreyAaron says


JeffreyAaron says

Current completely f**ked up admin opinion: "In the past the precedent was set that we won't give someone two vios for breaking two rules, but rather just one and a slap on the wrist for the other, therefore we will continue to follow this terrible precedent."

Or, better option:

"A user is harassing other users and using hateful comments, in the past this would be one violation, but we as a mod team believe that this was a bad precedent and we want to stop this kind of behavior so we will now punish both rules being broken rather than one."

Is this really that difficult?


I'll pose this to you without red text, Edark. I'd like a response to this. Why is option two bad?


Im having trouble keeping up with all the posts, but here goes. I think you're misunderstanding what actually happend so let me tell you in chronological order what took place:

Mist insulted thecolonel regarding him being unfunny or something silly and they had some banter. Thecolonel went quite overboard and as a moderator mist instantly forumsuspended him and told him to stop, aka gave out a verbal warning.

When his ban ran out he just made that huge thread about transsexuals and got an harassment violation for that.

What people now want is that I will give out an additional HC violation(or ban him but that wont happend) since thecolonel. As I've stated earlier you're only supposed to get 1 violation per instance(as in games you either get trolling or GT, not both or when you call someone a f*ggot multiple times even after they asked you get an harassment violation instead of HC.) which is why Im hesistant to dish out a second violation.
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edark i propose a compromise:


publicly reveal the main of thecolonel and i will do something that will cause the community to forget about this whole thing for at least a day or two
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VS9102 says


Retti says



every time i hear the word 'community' in any argument against the mods i really wanna spittake. two or three people mad about the mods/admin for doing something isn't a community, it's just two or three people. did not realize you suddenly speak for the people if you disagree with a mod decision lol


so are you here arguing that thecolonel is a nice addition to the site and we shouldnt care that he's free to post again and upset yet more people just for laughs while admins do nothing about it bc lol roolz


That's actually not what he said at all.
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ScubaSteve says


Edark says


ScubaSteve says


Edark says

Scubasteve do you want me to outright ban thecolonel?


Based on user history and the apparent unwillingness to find any semblance of self-control when it comes to attacking people, I absolutely would and I wouldn't think twice about it.

If they were a new user who did it once, got forum suspended for it, and made a conscious effort to either avoid the topic of conversation or just stopped being an as.shole about it, then the couple violations and a 48 hour forum break would be more than sufficient. Alas, the latter's not the case here.


I see. I can safely say that I wont yolo ban people tho.


Again, also fair. I'm an old man and I don't have the patience for people who do stuff like this anymore. That's also why I never wanted to be in your shoes, because due to my running a Tight Ship, I'd probably lose what little hair I have left because of all the whining and complaining I'd here from users like sonseray, ian, meetterry and that one obnoxious sandbox clique, etc., if I just started banning people for being terrible after a couple warnings to shut their mouths.


You have no idea how many times I've just seen people act like absolute children and how I just ask myself "why am I doing this".
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Retti says



every time i hear the word 'community' in any argument against the mods i really wanna spittake. two or three people mad about the mods/admin for doing something isn't a community, it's just two or three people. did not realize you suddenly speak for the people if you disagree with a mod decision lol


so are you here arguing that thecolonel is a nice addition to the site and we shouldnt care that he's free to post again and upset yet more people just for laughs while admins do nothing about it bc lol roolz
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haha community haha
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i wouldnt even bother jeffrey. edark is proving that he cares little for the community and just wants to keep his position by not flexing his adminly muscles in ways that could lose him brownie points with lucid
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every time i hear the word 'community' in any argument against the mods i really wanna spittake. two or three people mad about the mods/admin for doing something isn't a community, it's just two or three people. did not realize you suddenly speak for the people if you disagree with a mod decision lol
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Edark says


ScubaSteve says


Edark says

Scubasteve do you want me to outright ban thecolonel?


Based on user history and the apparent unwillingness to find any semblance of self-control when it comes to attacking people, I absolutely would and I wouldn't think twice about it.

If they were a new user who did it once, got forum suspended for it, and made a conscious effort to either avoid the topic of conversation or just stopped being an as.shole about it, then the couple violations and a 48 hour forum break would be more than sufficient. Alas, the latter's not the case here.


I see. I can safely say that I wont yolo ban people tho.


Again, also fair. I'm an old man and I don't have the patience for people who do stuff like this anymore. That's also why I never wanted to be in your shoes, because due to my running a Tight Ship, I'd probably lose what little hair I have left because of all the whining and complaining I'd hear from users like sonseray, ian, meetterry and that one obnoxious sandbox clique, etc., if I just started banning people for being terrible after a couple warnings to shut their mouths.
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JeffreyAaron says

Current completely f**ked up admin opinion: "In the past the precedent was set that we won't give someone two vios for breaking two rules, but rather just one and a slap on the wrist for the other, therefore we will continue to follow this terrible precedent."

Or, better option:

"A user is harassing other users and using hateful comments, in the past this would be one violation, but we as a mod team believe that this was a bad precedent and we want to stop this kind of behavior so we will now punish both rules being broken rather than one."

Is this really that difficult?


I'll pose this to you without red text, Edark. I'd like a response to this. Why is option two bad?
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Edark says


Retti says

edark i think you should do what you think is right cause you're the admin, and then just be done with it

that's not me arguing for either side, i think colonel is an a$$ and i wouldnt cry if anything happened either way, i just think you're gonna end up like Jasper did trying too hard to appeal with a ""community"" literally never happy lmao


Im just here arguing my point, I think if you cant defend your own opinion then you dont have an opinion worth defending.

Considering the community contains many different individuals every case thats is hard to judge will make a few happy and the rest unhappy. In the end I just gotta do what I think is right.


Which is more than fair, and Retti made an outstanding point with regards to appealing to the community in all cases.
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nothing kills the edge than just banning some unlucky sap from playing epicmafia

i did it all the time =')
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#teammist
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ScubaSteve says


Edark says

Scubasteve do you want me to outright ban thecolonel?


Based on user history and the apparent unwillingness to find any semblance of self-control when it comes to attacking people, I absolutely would and I wouldn't think twice about it.

If they were a new user who did it once, got forum suspended for it, and made a conscious effort to either avoid the topic of conversation or just stopped being an as.shole about it, then the couple violations and a 48 hour forum break would be more than sufficient. Alas, the latter's not the case here.


I see. I can safely say that I wont yolo ban people tho.