Epicmafia

almost 9 years

why do people outside of the united states care about what happens in the united states so much please hush

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YukiOkami says

Slowbro says

YukiOkami says

Slowbro says

there was a school shooting at a local middle school about two or three years ago. i think that qualifies as "affecting day-to-day life".

Did your child get shot? Did you keep your kids from going to school because of it? Did the world stop spinning? Do people keep living their lives anyway?

I guess you're right. I should not fear for my own life when a middle schooler has access to a gun and uses it on an adult. Truly, it's irrational of me to also fear for the welfare of those around me.

Sh*t happens. That's life. People have free will. You're not going to change the world, and that's not going to be taken away. So worrying about crap that isn't going to make a real difference doesn't matter. still happens, children in Africa still starve, people still get shot. The world is bigger than a middle school shooting.

Yeah, I guess apathy is the only way to live life. There's no point to anything. Why care about anything ever?

YukiOkami

almost 9 years

DrakeJr says

you're actually pretty stupid lol

Nice bait.

jack

almost 9 years

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rR9IaXH1M0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9UFyNy-rw4

The

almost 9 years

DrakeJr says

YukiOkami says

I respect that you were all having a serious conversation, so I won't mock any of you for contributing anything you said. I didn't read anything here, but I'll simply respect that you actually did put some kind of effort into what you were saying... and meant it, if you did. I have no problem with people being genuine.

However, this topic isn't important. You're just getting sucked into something that probably generally has nothing to do with you. Until it starts effecting your everyday life directly, just keep living your life. Everyone here that posted seriously got baited. So long as you can do what you wish with your life, you live it and you die. Worrying about all the other problems in the world just wastes your time.

you're actually pretty stupid lol

Please don't encourage others who may see your post to use personal attacks when discussing/debating.

DrakeJr

almost 9 years

i don't take you seriously

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What about me drake

YukiOkami

almost 9 years

Slowbro says

YukiOkami says

Slowbro says

there was a school shooting at a local middle school about two or three years ago. i think that qualifies as "affecting day-to-day life".

Did your child get shot? Did you keep your kids from going to school because of it? Did the world stop spinning? Do people keep living their lives anyway?

I guess you're right. I should not fear for my own life when a middle schooler has access to a gun and uses it on an adult. Truly, it's irrational of me to also fear for the welfare of those around me.

Sh*t happens. That's life. People have free will. You're not going to change the world, and that's not going to be taken away. So worrying about crap that isn't going to make a real difference doesn't matter. still happens, children in Africa still starve, people still get shot. The world is bigger than a middle school shooting.

DrakeJr

almost 9 years

YukiOkami says

I respect that you were all having a serious conversation, so I won't mock any of you for contributing anything you said. I didn't read anything here, but I'll simply respect that you actually did put some kind of effort into what you were saying... and meant it, if you did. I have no problem with people being genuine.

However, this topic isn't important. You're just getting sucked into something that probably generally has nothing to do with you. Until it starts effecting your everyday life directly, just keep living your life. Everyone here that posted seriously got baited. So long as you can do what you wish with your life, you live it and you die. Worrying about all the other problems in the world just wastes your time.

you're actually pretty stupid lol

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YukiOkami says

Slowbro says

there was a school shooting at a local middle school about two or three years ago. i think that qualifies as "affecting day-to-day life".

Did your child get shot? Did you keep your kids from going to school because of it? Did the world stop spinning? Do people keep living their lives anyway?

I guess you're right. I should not fear for my own life when a middle schooler has access to a gun and uses it on an adult. Truly, it's irrational of me to also fear for the welfare of those around me.

YukiOkami

almost 9 years

Slowbro says

there was a school shooting at a local middle school about two or three years ago. i think that qualifies as "affecting day-to-day life".

Did your child get shot? Did you keep your kids from going to school because of it? Did the world stop spinning? Do people keep living their lives anyway?

The

almost 9 years

The stark amount of ineffectual political remarks and generalizations in this thread demonstrate well the failures of the world's political systems.

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there was a school shooting at a local middle school about two or three years ago. i think that qualifies as "affecting day-to-day life".

YukiOkami

almost 9 years

I respect that you were all having a serious conversation, so I won't mock any of you for contributing anything you said. I didn't read anything here, but I'll simply respect that you actually did put some kind of effort into what you were saying... and meant it, if you did. I have no problem with people being genuine.

However, this topic isn't important. You're just getting sucked into something that probably generally has nothing to do with you. Until it starts effecting your everyday life directly, just keep living your life. Everyone here that posted seriously got baited. So long as you can do what you wish with your life, you live it and you die. Worrying about all the other problems in the world just wastes your time.

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who actually cares about owning guns, clearly they are a problem and there's no reason to not try stricter legislation. sure, maybe there is no causation between stricter legislation and mass shootings, but it's worth a try.

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hedger says

Americans are stupid, don't try to argue with them on obvious matters.

go put another shrimp on the barbie king kangaroo

Jaleb

almost 9 years

Crooks says

so look, since guns aren't going anywhere, lets put logic back into the equation, and figure out what it is that's driving people to do it. was this guy on anti depressants? is it mental health? lets figure out what it is, and fix this problem, because here's a fact for you guys, the second amendment was written a LONG time ago, yet we weren't having these mass shootings in the 90's or 80's, so clearly there's a problem in today's time that has JUST risen, and we need to fix THAT.

people who are for guns are also against ways for people to get help in rational thoughts through government mental centers.

hedger

almost 9 years

Americans are stupid, don't try to argue with them on obvious matters.

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(May I add, the other Western countries that everyone keeps referring to aren't bordering a country with huge issues involving gangs, illegal firearms, and a drug trade.)

edit: never mind, my point is void.

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so look, since guns aren't going anywhere, lets put logic back into the equation, and figure out what it is that's driving people to do it. was this guy on anti depressants? is it mental health? lets figure out what it is, and fix this problem, because here's a fact for you guys, the second amendment was written a LONG time ago, yet we weren't having these mass shootings in the 90's or 80's, so clearly there's a problem in today's time that has JUST risen, and we need to fix THAT.

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Devante says

Guess no one in Canada, Australia, the UK, or basically any country outside of terror ridden ones want to kill a lot of people, right justrec?

you're flying over my main points, (which most anti gun debaters usually do), but your question is irrelevant because as i just stated, it's easier for these people to obtain guns here, and they are NOT going away, even if we ban guns (which you seem to be ignoring), but we aren't banning guns either, if you knew anything about american politics. they aren't letting that happen.

also, everytime i see someone very passionate about this on the internet, be it twitter, communities, etc, it's always people outside of the america. and everytime i try to pick their brain on their stance, they always look down on americans on some way. it never fails. this seems to me like an extremely easy for residents of other countries to just get a lick at americans, since people seem to be so involved with american politics, traditions, lifestyles, etc, etc, criticizing us for every little thing we do, but i find it funny how we just stay in our bubble and not give a rats about anything in their countries. you can tell america is bestest country, they all worry about us.

Devante

almost 9 years

harodihg says

Devante are you trying to say that the media over-publicizes the incidents? I don't see a clear pattern in your picture

nice

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cashmere says

Crooks says

listen, you guys are basically saying the same things over and over again when it comes to gun laws, and why we should have stricter ones, even though i just gave a blatantly clear FACT that is present today that everyone seems to keep ignoring, so i'm going to delve deeper into this.

the united states already has faaaaaaaaaaar too many guns in the country. too many. far more than whatever country you're from. and they're easily accessible. no amount of gun laws are removing these guns from the country. sorry. that makes my previous point stand even more. criminals will obtain guns, and bypass the law, and kill people with them no matter how many gun laws or bans you wish to see implemented.

also, being realistic. guns are NEVER going to be banned in america. sorry again. it's never going to happen. about half of the states in this country are never going to let that happen. so instead of two different extremes, one that says ban guns, and the other that wants to hoard guns, we need to find a reasonable solution in the MIDDLE, because this debate can and will go on forever with nothing happening otherwise.

This is a silly argument since perpetrators in mass shootings (not gang related shootings) usually end up obtaining their gun of choice from a parent or a relative. The point of this is, the person they get the gun from, has the gun, primarily due to feeble gun laws in that district.

I agree. I think most people in this thread were arguing from a mass-shooting p.o.v.

I think one of the problems in the U.S. is that because laws can be different depending on the state, it's pretty easy to circumvent laws in one state by just leaving the state. Strict gun control laws in state a) can be avoided by traveling (i.e. driving) to state b). Forgive me if I'm wrong, but there aren't 'border checkpoints' between states, so what's stopping someone carrying a weapon into a state where it's illegal?

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Devante are you trying to say that the media over-publicizes the incidents? I don't see a clear pattern in your picture

Devante

almost 9 years

Guess no one in Canada, Australia, the UK, or basically any country outside of terror ridden ones want to kill a lot of people, right justrec?

anyone who owns a gun