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Since the New Roles thread has become overwhelmed with self-advertising, I think a poll would encourage more discussion. I'm using a list I was given for the options in the poll, so sorry in advance if your role isn't on there.

Which role idea is your favorite? http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=r6U0AUwU
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Gambler
16
Monkey
13
Duelist
12
Widow/Donor/Philanthropist (ran out of room)
11
Sidekick
7
Handy Man
6
Postman
3
Butterfly
3
Gun Revealer
2
Revealer
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creepy tbh
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i think this poll has some great ideas
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give your good ideas to foxy then
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this poll ignores a lot of really good ideas
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Croned says

And then you have the virtually nonexistent visits such as the tracker/watcher visits themselves (as well as arson), which can't be seen but I believe can be driven.


you can only drive a visit, just like you can only drunk a visit (which is also bizarre logic but we just kind of got used to it)
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moonlightseal says

I think there are 3 kind of visits: obvious visit, tricky visit and hidden visit
The obvious one is the normal one, which watcher and tracker catch the visitor
The tricky one is the one that only tracker see the visiting, and the watcher doesnt. We have maf meeting, priest self visit, ghoul self visit, mimic self visit etc...
The hidden visit is the one that no report can catch them, except loudmouth and thlu. We have ninja visit, ghoul kill visit.
And penguin bug sometimes count 1 visit that do more than 1 action as 2 visits ( like about nurse and surgeon)



better labels are visits, group visits, and an assortment of bugs
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And then you have the virtually nonexistent visits such as the tracker/watcher visits themselves (as well as arson), which can't be seen but I believe can be driven.
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admin says

Yeah I like time traveler


not time traveler that's boring

TIMEWINDER IT even RHYMES
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I think there are 3 kind of visits: obvious visit, tricky visit and hidden visit
The obvious one is the normal one, which watcher and tracker catch the visitor
The tricky one is the one that only tracker see the visiting, and the watcher doesnt. We have maf meeting, priest self visit, ghoul self visit, mimic self visit etc...
The hidden visit is the one that no report can catch them, except loudmouth and thlu. We have ninja visit, ghoul kill visit.
And penguin bug sometimes count 1 visit that do more than 1 action as 2 visits ( like about nurse and surgeon)
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a vote for handyman is a vote for babacakes. a vote for any other role is a vote for jeb bush to be president.
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I wonder if a solo mafia meeting is any different (technically) than any other solo meeting.
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that shouldn't be possible either it's illogical

one person doesn't make up the entire kill

i think the way that works needs some revamping, although at the same time it should work for roles like watcher and loudmouth. drunk shouldn't stop the entire mafia though, that's just straight up stupid.
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But drunk can stop the mafia kill by drunking one peson, and the first person to vote is the one killed by the bomb.
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mafia kill isn't a solo meeting, even if you only have 1 mafia, so monkey on mafia (or mason, cult, zombie, etc. joint meeting) shouldn't do anything. if it does, i'd call it a bug, because it doesn't follow logically. all mafia participate realistically.
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moonlightseal says

monkey shouldnt be able to mimic normal maf killing meeting, cause game will goes mad. Or if the target visit more than once, only one random action is mimiced


The adjustment with only mimicing one random action if someone has multiple sounds good, as roles like driver or mistletoe wouldn't really function properly otherwise.

I don't know if there's a reason not to mimic the normal mafia meeting though, because that would only happen if the monkey mimics the person who leads the kill. The only situation that would be bad would be if the Monkey knew who the last maf was, but at that point the game is over anyway.
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Soluciones says

the logan version of widow is cool and not op. lynching the widow wouldnt let doctor protect and mafia would get pr. the only part i disagree is the mafia sided thing, i think it should be town and punish village if ever lynched (just like lk, leader, secretary...)


If anyone wants to see my version of Widow (which was already an idea before Widow was suggested): https://epicmafia.com/role/6168

The reason it is mafia-sided is because it wouldn't make much sense as a town role. Sure, it is a punishment, but it's meant to be the opposite of virgin, and the same should be for the alignment.
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vote for butterfly be named looper
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Yeah I like time traveler
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admin says

only complaint is Butterfly's name is too weird


I think it fits right in with talking trees, penguins, and anthropomorphic mistletoes

Time Traveler would be a decent alternative though


yoyoyorlozer says

gambler and monkey sound fun, duelist for specific setups too, widow revision is just a bad strongman, and honestly who wants delayed item giving


widow and postman weren't intended to be sandbox roles, just like gambler and duelist aren't ever going to be comp roles
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monkey shouldnt be able to mimic normal maf killing meeting, cause game will goes mad. Or if the target visit more than once, only one random action is mimiced
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Probably important to specify this either way, but I think Monkeys should be able to choose themselves in the "Monkey Do" meeting.
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Gambler should have a random game each day, not just rock paper scissor, may be small version of the games we see in game lobby. It can be captcha stuff, battleground, boogle, or the Duelist gun game.
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GuiltyTownie says

We're playing with penguins and tree stumps. Butterfly is the next logical step.


ok good point
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Oh, and please do Assassin. it's a killing third but instead of killing whoever they want to kill, they have two targets so his win condition is a bit different.

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https://epicmafia.com/role/4033 (Assassin)

It's not mine but I found it and made some changes...

- Each day receives one target.
- The Assassin may choose to visit or not that target at night.
- If visiting the target, will make a kill attempt.
- If the Assassin is visited by ANY investigative role that night, the Assassin will be revealed.
- Wins if their two targets die and the Assassin is still alive at the end of the game.
- Cannot win if their targets aren't dead, even if last two alive.
- If village/third party wins, Assassin won't steal their win. If mafia wins, Assassin will steal their win and win alone.

NOTE: last point is because it isn't an instant win for Assassin. Ex: clockmaker wins if hitting 12 o'clock, but Assassin must wait to the game to finish in order to win (Win does not override other victories.). Also, the 4th point could also be:

- If the target is visited by anyone that night, they will know Assassin's identity and he'll be revealed to everyone.

EDIT: Would appear as innocent on cop reports unless he decides to kill that night. (or always innocent if that's hard to code)

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