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UniversalStudios
about 10 years

is the R word a "slur" against? I'm failing to comprehend how a word can universally be a slur without the definition or origin of the word being derogatory.

I'm failing to see why I have 2 violations for a word I was using in context of it's definition:

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TheeCake says

do you play EM?


yes, what's your point
Clair
about 10 years

Harrold says


Connor says

the words shouldn't even be in your vocabulary for it to even be POSSIBLE to slip out.


Yes, let's assume that everyone grew up in an extremely culturally sensitive environment.


that's why the first violation is a warning, dude. it's not rocket science
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Connor says

with the exception of reclaiming, the words shouldn't even be in your vocabulary for it to even be POSSIBLE to slip out. if you use the word off-site, you're in the wrong, and if you can't stop yourself from using the word, you're still in the wrong, therefore leniency on "slip outs" is literally the most infeasibly illogical thing i've read in this thread


i agree with this but its not up to mods to moderate people's morales off site, and in a lot of areas some words aren't seen as insulting so when people learn english and earn the english equivalent of those words, they dont think of the connotations

like, in slavic countries (and some spanish too, and hell even in areas of England iirc), the homophobic f-slur doesnt have the punch in the gut it does to americans so they use it freely without thinking. im not trying to excuse them, im just saying it is a plausible issue
Clair
about 10 years

Harrold says

Connor should come with an SJW tag next to his name so people that do not know him can just ignore his posts.


your only counter-point ITT is "sensitive people are bell-ends" so you really have no leg room for ad hom, hope this helps
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Nattatatalie says


Harrold says

Connor should come with an SJW tag next to his name so people that do not know him can just ignore his posts.


and yet here you are responding to him.


Yeah but I know him.
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Connor says

the words shouldn't even be in your vocabulary for it to even be POSSIBLE to slip out.


Yes, let's assume that everyone grew up in an extremely culturally sensitive environment.
UniversalStudios
about 10 years

Connor says

how do you know it doesn't apply to Y?

there are plenty of people on this site, and people don't broadcast their mental health. it could affect Y even if you don't know it doesn't, and Y could be someone you don't even know, from a part of the site you don't venture into. you cannot assume that mentally disabled people don't exist on this website


This is nice, keep protecting your imaginary friends.

I want to know one case outside of LaurieRose where this has the potential to apply.
Natalie
about 10 years

Harrold says

Connor should come with an SJW tag next to his name so people that do not know him can just ignore his posts.


and yet here you are responding to him.
TheeCake
about 10 years

Harunan says


TheeCake says

R is used in general for dull people too. Idiot used to specifically refer to people with an IQ below 20 (people we would now call profoundly R)


ive not seen any uses of either word in these instances in the past like 15 years lmao. textbooks from the early 1900s dont count.


do you play EM?
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Connor should come with an SJW tag next to his name so people that do not know him can just ignore his posts.
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Connor says


UniversalStudios says


Connor says

y can still be offended, therefore outlawing it prevents all potential offensiveness"


This is an invalid reason, especially in light of Y being able to be offended by a word that doesn't apply to them.


how do you know it doesn't apply to Y?

there are plenty of people on this site, and people don't broadcast their mental health. it could affect Y even if you don't know it doesn't, and Y could be someone you don't even know, from a part of the site you don't venture into. you cannot assume that mentally disabled people don't exist on this website


If people are sensitive enough to be upset by this word, then they should be sensitive enough to know that people are emotionally bound to games of mafia and are vulnerable to saying things out of turn. I don't think it's fair to reprimand people who say somewhat questionable things as a means to vent their frustration. Obviously, again, this is within limits.
Clair
about 10 years
with the exception of reclaiming, the words shouldn't even be in your vocabulary for it to even be POSSIBLE to slip out. if you use the word off-site, you're in the wrong, and if you can't stop yourself from using the word, you're still in the wrong, therefore leniency on "slip outs" is literally the most infeasibly illogical thing i've read in this thread
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TheeCake says

R is used in general for dull people too. Idiot used to specifically refer to people with an IQ below 20 (people we would now call profoundly R)


ive not seen any uses of either word in these instances in the past like 15 years lmao. textbooks from the early 1900s dont count.
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i like dimwit
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a toggleable filter doesnt give you the right to be a jackwagon
TheeCake
about 10 years
R is used in general for dull people too. Idiot used to specifically refer to people with an IQ below 20 (people we would now call profoundly R)
UniversalStudios
about 10 years

Connor says

i don't understand why you think people can't just have self control


Your definition of self control invalidates behaviors that are barely questionable. Hyping up offensive towards a group not represented on this site is a joke.

You could however make this argument if there was a filter in game.
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thee; nat already explained, R word is used as a slur towards mentally disabled people while idiot is merely used in general for dull people
UniversalStudios
about 10 years

Sims says

i don't think anyone should be using the word, but i don't want to punish people for having it slip out in the heat of the moment during a game. if you make an effort to at least stop using it, i'll try to change the hc rule around to benefit that.


Don't change it, I need a legit reason to not play games. Being forum banned is a legit reason.
TheeCake
about 10 years

TheeCake says

What makes R a slur but not idiot?

Clair
about 10 years

UniversalStudios says


Connor says

y can still be offended, therefore outlawing it prevents all potential offensiveness"


This is an invalid reason, especially in light of Y being able to be offended by a word that doesn't apply to them.


how do you know it doesn't apply to Y?

there are plenty of people on this site, and people don't broadcast their mental health. it could affect Y even if you don't know it doesn't, and Y could be someone you don't even know, from a part of the site you don't venture into. you cannot assume that mentally disabled people don't exist on this website
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can confirm pranay triggers me, outlaw this word and ban pranay7744 for name violation
Sims
about 10 years

Connor says


Sims says

i don't think anyone should be using the word, but i don't want to punish people for having it slip out in the heat of the moment during a game. if you make an effort to at least stop using it, i'll try to change the hc rule around to benefit that.


i don't understand why you think people can't just have self control


because i got a harassment vio for my lack of self control
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Connor says


Sims says

i don't think anyone should be using the word, but i don't want to punish people for having it slip out in the heat of the moment during a game. if you make an effort to at least stop using it, i'll try to change the hc rule around to benefit that.


i don't understand why you think people can't just have self control


tbh when ive been angry ive said really nasty stuff about people i wouldnt say in public, so i can understand a heat of the moment thing for ppl because it does happen and we all operate differently so
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Devante says

if you go into every single game as town and use the word (pranay) then you should get a violation, yes. If you in one game out of anger say the word because the clear / the town eff'd up, which in this meta happens far too often then you shouldn't get a violation. Good job Shacky, you got it. Zovea's vios should be OT'd btw


The word pranay offends me. Please suspend this monster.