over 10 years

Quick question for people who are better at this than me:

What's the deal with honest meta again? Is it considered OGI if someone has a meta that they stick to and is known by the community / tables a person plays with? (IE "I always and only say "town here" as town", or "I only pinky swear if I'm town").

I don't remember any of the past verdicts on this.

Thanks guys.

What is it?
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It's OGI
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Free Gallis Hunter
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Not OGI (pls explain)
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demod bront
over 10 years
no. pina did exactly the same as this. trophy is irrelevant
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Connor says

anyway it's a no vio. precedent: https://epicmafia.com/report/94474 https://epicmafia.com/report/94481


but it shouldn't be considered a no vio if the user is about to win a trophy on it. pina didn't come close to winning and she stopped immediately
over 10 years
sorry harrold i dont make the rules.
deletedover 10 years

Connor says

anyway it's a no vio. precedent: https://epicmafia.com/report/94474 https://epicmafia.com/report/94481


Connor is here to defend the meta
over 10 years

Sammie says

no *** thats unacceptable lmao. his whole reaosn he can win is to play with certain people and then ATE as town. why would that be acceptable at all??

its like saying its ok to cheat because your partner can lie. yeah they can lie but its still against the rules to cheat, so why should 100% meta garbage like this be ok? especially when youre carrying your run on it?


shows over guys, this is the officially endorsed opinion of ex-banned epicmafia user petricigy/orbneko/goku
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he doesn't flat out say "i'm town i'm using ate" etc every game but from what i've seen he seems to only ate/rage as town (esp with friends in game) unless given a specific reason (roshiez's game she linked) to ate as mafia (which i've only seen in that game tbh)
over 10 years
over 10 years

Hina says


Kerry says

i used to pinkie promise i was town before i was informed it was honest meta + wrongwrongwrong


I KNOW , YOU TRIED TO GET ME IN TO THAT *** ASWELL


hehehe >:]
over 10 years

Kerry says

i used to pinkie promise i was town before i was informed it was honest meta + wrongwrongwrong


I KNOW , YOU TRIED TO GET ME IN TO THAT *** ASWELL
over 10 years
he says he "can't" ate but in reality it's just that he "won't"
over 10 years
i used to pinkie promise i was town before i was informed it was honest meta + wrongwrongwrong
over 10 years
It's one thing to say "I know how ____ plays as mafia/town" (sometimes you can't escape a player's scum/towntells when they're the same in every game they play), it's another to actively claim the meta using AtE as the 'code' with a certain group of players and admitting ingame and postgame that this meta is the only reason you're winning the games (because it's 'proof' that you're town).
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lmao.
over 10 years
thank you sammie for writing a paragraph that literally did not need to be said!!!
over 10 years
no *** thats unacceptable lmao. his whole reaosn he can win is to play with certain people and then ATE as town. why would that be acceptable at all??

its like saying its ok to cheat because your partner can lie. yeah they can lie but its still against the rules to cheat, so why should 100% meta garbage like this be ok? especially when youre carrying your run on it?
over 10 years
You should read into jazza, he is doing the same ***
over 10 years
Yeah that's unacceptable imo.
over 10 years
http://puu.sh/auVHx/52a5d7723e.png
http://puu.sh/auVWM/02b3b33d5c.png
http://puu.sh/auW0l/888441b5f7.png

Question: is this a rule-breaker or someone who is just bad at playing mafia properly? This meta sucks, and if he can't win without it, he's no good at mafia and shouldn't be winning (or he wouldn't be using the meta like this in the first place).
over 10 years
i guess that's better than saying "i should have cheated to prove im town and make it autowin"
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Connor says

is he being intentionally honest though


what do you mean? there was the one game where he said something like "i should've ated to prove im town and make it autowin"
over 10 years
is he being intentionally honest though
over 10 years

Dawsoni says

It used to be OGI violation(s) + suspend their runs back when Riot did it I think


This, most of the time at least.
over 10 years

Giga says

Reminder that round 9 was like 400 years ago and nobody on the mod team except nikki and cloud were here when it happened


Everyone from 2.0 was here
over 10 years
Sigh at this even being a question.

I read like 2 pages and that's it, but honest meta is banned if

1. Is stated under profiles
2. Done over enough games where it is basically as if it were stated somewhere on the site (even though it only happened in the games).

General guideline: "I never do X" is unacceptable if abused. "I wouldn't do X" is what lies under the acceptable use of meta.

Honest meta that isn't abused (as in just a game here and there where it isn't easily verifiable) is not against the rules but it's still something that every good player should avoid
over 10 years
If someone believes your "honest meta", more sucker them.