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thebrontosaurus
over 10 years

Quick question for people who are better at this than me:

What's the deal with honest meta again? Is it considered OGI if someone has a meta that they stick to and is known by the community / tables a person plays with? (IE "I always and only say "town here" as town", or "I only pinky swear if I'm town").

I don't remember any of the past verdicts on this.

Thanks guys.

What is it?
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It's OGI
24
Free Gallis Hunter
7
Not OGI (pls explain)
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demod bront
deletedover 10 years
Ballin'
Kennedy
over 10 years
Anyway since i guess this is still coming up:

https://epicmafia.com/topic/8792?page=1

I'd encourage people to actually read through this thread. Megs and I played every game together, but we didn't cheat. Nobody ever proved that we cheated. People consistently reported me for cheating every time I tried to trophy run, because I always did it with a buddy or two playing most of my games with me.

We can debate the merits of this approach, but it has been deemed allowed by the mods on several occasions. LOLUMAD got most of his trophies playing with not 1-2, but entire games full of the same people. I don't think this is a bad approach; playing with reliable friends makes for good games. Mafia is a party game that should be played with friends.

I never cheated for a trophy. I did cheat in like maybe six games total, the specific ones I don't really remember. It wasn't usually for victory, but to screw over Eritas on a few occasions because he and I were on rather disagreeable terms a couple of years ago.

Thanks for your time.
Kennedy
over 10 years
Wow Peta really likes talking about me. Jesus christ, I never cheated and the whole thing happened literally five years ago.
Kennedy
over 10 years
No, I was linked.
Edark
over 10 years
Did you search your name on the forums?
Kennedy
over 10 years

Germatron says


Empire says


Peta says

Jack also said this.


Jack outright caught him rolesharing when Kennedy accidentally MSN'd him over someone else.

And he had the logs+screenshot to prove it.


wait so kennedy has cheated? and he didnt just abuse meta?

yessssssss


The ***? This never happened. Logs please.
Diabolik
over 10 years
Try to meta me :P
but yeah sometimes i hate more as town ( inb4 banned for OGI )
deletedover 10 years
i only ban honest meta when i'm town
tearoll
over 10 years
Can we please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please PLEASE ban honest meta from future rounds? Even if you are mentally handicapped and don't think it it's cheating you have to at least admit it gives certain people an unfair advantage over other players and at the very least shouldn't be allowed when trophy running.
Steven
over 10 years
There was no precedent set Connor. The only precedent is the one I already explained. A bad ruling on a report does not create a new precedent because the rule never changed. I forgot all about the piña reports but if the mods decided that piña didn't abuse it enough that doesn't mean that someone that does abuse it that much (to the mods opinion, I know that you think that piña did abuse but that's irrelevant) wouldn't get a vio


tearoll says

It's OGI because it counts as a PREGAME PACT. It's not enforced because its a gray area and because the mods are terrible. People are consistently using 100% honest meta to win trophys which is why trophy running is no longer fun.


This is partly true (the pre game pact thing I mean)
Sims
over 10 years
if what roshiez said is right and he never ate'd or claimed town as mafia, it's honest meta
deletedover 10 years
i don't actually think mw should've been dq'd. he's just a bad player and easy read.
deletedover 10 years
i dn't really think it's OGI so much as it is gamethrowing. you're establishing a precedent to use against you as mafia for no reason. you're basically setting a perfect rubric to lynch you any time you are not mafia. and i wouldn't really consider it OGI if used for towntelling because only morons read into that :^)
Kerry
over 10 years
nvm im blind
deletedover 10 years
salty is a *** word
EmmerrLouise
over 10 years
Oh in terms of the round I'm like saline solution.
Clair
over 10 years

EmmerrLouise says

Implying the outcome of this would have any bearing on me this round. :)


yup, still salty
deletedover 10 years
oooaaaawwwwwwaaaaaaaaargh
EmmerrLouise
over 10 years
Implying the outcome of this would have any bearing on me this round. :)
Clair
over 10 years

EmmerrLouise says

I wouldn't get it regardless bc Jazz - it's just the principle and preventing this sort of idiotic meta from being used next round would be fantastic. Trophies might actually represent something then instead of who had the most meta per round :)


salty u lost
EmmerrLouise
over 10 years

Edark says

Implying you didnt get hardcarried emmer :D


Obviously. ;)
Sims
over 10 years
most of the mods know that already, i hope
Kerry
over 10 years

Kerry says

ateing every game as town =/= honest meta abuse
saying i do x as town every game + doing it only as town = honest meta abuse


would this be hard to follow @ mods/admins?
Edark
over 10 years
Implying you didnt get hardcarried emmer :D
EmmerrLouise
over 10 years
I wouldn't get it regardless bc Jazz - it's just the principle and preventing this sort of idiotic meta from being used next round would be fantastic. Trophies might actually represent something then instead of who had the most meta per round :)