Since some users dislike the political discussions on the Sandbox lobby wall, I’ve decided to make a serious thread where people can discuss political issues/tangentially-related discourse.
Please keep name-calling to a minimum and remember that site rules still apply. While this “debate” is not technically “moderated,” I reserve the right to mute anyone who decides to make this thread all about Jamal or Neanderthals or whatever.
Please just try to use this space to contain conversations that are otherwise derailing in other places.
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No ones saying to let in as many people as possible, just to let people in who are at risk of endangerment. Humanitarian trips aren't really going to do anything if the state of the country is at its worse or if the person is living in horrible conditions they can't get out of. You can't really use the "national security its not our business" excuse as the U.S has been intervening in foreign affairs of countries in crisis for years now.
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you would consider interventionalism good but refuse to offer at least some shelter to those same people?
SteelixMaga I can't really do anything to convince you that your information on the facts is wrong but you have been grossly misinformed. Even in singular occupations women are paid significantly less than male counterparts. (maternal leave and overtime are irrelevant, as these are factors that you usually wouldn't tie into wage statistics, and you get wage penalized for taking maternal leave anyways). Women generally work lower paying jobs, yes, but that's one of the main problems of the wage gap that needs to be addressed and resolved.
Also, the woman tax is referring to these gendered toiletries lol. There are facts to back up that products aimed towards women and items women need are priced significantly higher. Even if your state ruled that sanitary items shouldn't be taxed that's not to say it isn't happening everywhere else.
The point is women overall are in a worse position then men are in our current society. Being a man in the 21st century is the easiest you'll have it.
Okay, you can't just come parading into a private access club just because there is a murderer within 10 miles.
Yes, threats within countries exist, and it is sad that they happen, but for the sake of national security, problems going on in other countries might not always be business in my country. But my country is one of the few countries that allows people to go on humanitarian missions to help people of these crises.
My country's aim is to make the world better, not to get as many people in there as possible.
oh hold up, i saw you make a comment about me in one of those reports, who are you?
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sure they're not things literally written into law but The Law is not the end all in determining what people do. societal discrimination and pressures have not gone away.
There are specific qualifications you need to have to seek asylum in the U.S, and it takes half a year or more to be approved. As I said some ppl don't have the time (what if your country was getting bombed?) Anyone who cares more about keeping people out rather than showing compassion to help out is lacking sympathy. Highly doubt it has anything to do with "showing someone right from wrong." How are you showing someone right from wrong by letting them sit in fear of getting killed in their country or living in extreme poverty?
Pay gap is fake. The studies that led to this idea disregarded any extra factors including maternity leave, overtime work hours, and the large quantity of women that are stay-home workers. It portrays an average income that doesn't take into account the prestige level of the job, or anything, it just takes the geometric mean straight across.
Women do not have to pay taxes just to be women, that is preposterous.
Toiletries that are of equivalent design and usability are marked at the exact same price. But women's toiletries that are used for higher-level functions would obviously have a higher price, and that higher price would not only be exclusive to women.
Sanitary items are something that were debated in my state, and now they are ruled as medical items and any taxes on them would be nullified.
Underrepresentation in the workforce and media simply means that more women need to be members in the workforce, and I can't really understand your definition of underrepresentation in the media.
Not being a victim of assault and all that would not qualify as a "right", but that is a point that I cannot refute, because that is how it biologically works.
Now for this entire argument, it does not follow the prompt of listing rights that men have that women don't.
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if you define right and wrong solely on what laws state all you're caring about is your own pride
but if you would do anything, it wouldn't be too hard to just wait a bit? and besides if you are trying to find sanctuary/refuge within the States, it is only a little bit of paperwork.
If you are trying to mess with their argument by saying that they are "lacking human sympathy", that is a big fallacy indeed. Because sometimes it takes someone to show right from wrong to show that you care, just letting someone out into the world with nothing is rather the insensitive thing.
Pay gap, the "woman tax" (women pay more for toiletries then men do), under representation in the work force and media. Women are also more likely to be sexually assaulted, harassed, and victims of human trafficking. This is just the tip of the iceberg tho
What rights do men have in the U.S. that women don't have?
(also, keep in mind the only oppositions you have so far is "15-year-old" and "cis male", so you guys are not really doing much for your side, so please try to impress me)
as said before in this thread, immigrating to other countries have processes that can take months or up to years to finish - some people don't have the time to wait that long especially with situations they're living in. Getting green cards are also costly, and some people just don't have the money.
that is part of the joke of the video. he is portraying himself as the "cis scum" who seems to be cursed with surprisingly true facts, and easily accessible research indicating that in fact, females have several privileges over men in the United States.
Look, if there is enough feminist regime to try to protect women, it is implying that they are a set of people that need protection more than that of men, making it look as though they are somehow weaker.
imagine being this unsympathetic. why should we not let people who are struggling in and show them hospitality? keep in mind we advanced as a human race through cooperation and compassion for others, not by making up fake country borders and keeping as much people out as we could.
whenever i see datguiser in a thread expressing political opinions he gained from trawling strange parts of the internet i cant help but wonder why someone who has to ask to use the bathroom most hours of the day thinks they have any credence to talk about these issues whatsoever
