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the problem is that marketing aims these products towards unknowing women in an attempt them to get to pay for cheaper quality goods for higher prices
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9 years ago ? weren't you like 6? don't think that experience counts for much buddy
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theres literally NO difference between men and womens razors

theyre both designed exactly the same
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Bramble says

then by those standards womens razors shouldnt be more expensive than mens


if either can use either, then there is no disparity, the only disparity is in the personal choice and you can't blame it on society.

Good game, you proved me right.
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then by those standards womens razors shouldnt be more expensive than mens
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Psy420 says

have you ever seen or used a female razor steelix? they're the exact same thing as a male razor but smaller and less durable, and they're still priced the same. Plus a woman who shaves her legs often will do it every one to three days, which is about the same timeframe a man shaves his face.


when I moved into my house 9 years ago, in my bathroom mirror shelf, there was a female razor, and for sure I can say that it is different than a male razor.
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Bramble says

whats the difference between men and womens razors?? there literally is none

women can use mens razors, men can use womens razors and theres absolutely nothing stopping them


yeah, so if they can be used by both, what is the issue?
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whats the difference between men and womens razors?? there literally is none

women can use mens razors, men can use womens razors and theres absolutely nothing stopping them
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have you ever seen or used a female razor steelix? they're the exact same thing as a male razor but smaller and less durable, and they're still priced the same. Plus a woman who shaves her legs often will do it every one to three days, which is about the same timeframe a man shaves his face.
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even if a woman meets those "qualifications" for a job, companies will still prefer men because sexism in the workplace happens WAY more often than you think
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Bramble says

then you clearly dont understand why womens toiletries shouldnt be so expensive

if womens razors are used more often, then they should be cheaper than mens razors
some women actually buy mens razors because theyre both cheaper AND more effective, surprisingly

mens razors are much more durable and are made with higher quality materials, so why dont they cost more?


female razors are meant for different functions, and men shave more often last I checked. Women have to pay for things that are adapted for a wider range and would have a longer time use.
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SteelixMega says

There are qualifications you need for certain jobs, and it isn't society's fault that jobs require qualifications.


that's not the point. the point is even IF the woman is capable for the job they are less likely to be hired on account of their sex.

And the pink tax does exist, and it has nothing to do with "higher quality items". You will pay more for a female-targeted product than you will a male one and that accounts for everything no matter what quality it is.
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boy i cant take you seriously when you refer to women as "females"
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then you clearly dont understand why womens toiletries shouldnt be so expensive

if womens razors are used more often, then they should be cheaper than mens razors
some women actually buy mens razors because theyre both cheaper AND more effective, surprisingly

mens razors are much more durable and are made with higher quality materials, so why dont they cost more?
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Bramble says

you dont even need statistics just do a quick search online

men are considered more "capable" than women when it comes to work, ESPECIALLY when it comes to certain workfields that involve heavy duty labor, such as construction
if a construction job were to open up with workers needed, the company would hire more men than women for the job because its a common belief that women are "weak" and "more sensitive"


okay, that is not a form of oppression. Not all females are meant for heavy duty labor, and neither are all males. There are qualifications you need for certain jobs, and it isn't society's fault that jobs require qualifications, even if it is at the expense of a demographic.

It is not the same thing to say that 1.) Females should not do heavy duty labor and 2.) The average female would be able to do successful heavy duty labor than that of an average male.
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Bramble says

"male tampons" dont exist lmao


that's the joke
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lemonparty69 says

you would consider interventionalism good but refuse to offer at least some shelter to those same people?


hmm imagine a world where everybody expects the United States to come to their rescue for literally everything.
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"male tampons" dont exist lmao
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you dont even need statistics just do a quick search online

men are considered more "capable" than women when it comes to work, ESPECIALLY when it comes to certain workfields that involve heavy duty labor, such as construction
if a construction job were to open up with workers needed, the company would hire more men than women for the job because its a common belief that women are "weak" and "more sensitive"
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Female tampons cost more than male tampons wow
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Psy420 says

SteelixMaga I can't really do anything to convince you that your information on the facts is wrong but you have been grossly misinformed. Even in singular occupations women are paid significantly less than male counterparts. (maternal leave and overtime are irrelevant, as these are factors that you usually wouldn't tie into wage statistics, and you get wage penalized for taking maternal leave anyways). Women generally work lower paying jobs, yes, but that's one of the main problems of the wage gap that needs to be addressed and resolved.

Also, the woman tax is referring to these gendered toiletries lol. There are facts to back up that products aimed towards women and items women need are priced significantly higher. Even if your state ruled that sanitary items shouldn't be taxed that's not to say it isn't happening everywhere else.

The point is women overall are in a worse position then men are in our current society. Being a man in the 21st century is the easiest you'll have it.


the pink tax is completely gone when you compare the exact same products, but it is present again once you find something with a different functionality, it is higher priced. It is almost as if things with more uses and higher quality are...higher priced? As I said, that isn't necessarily a problem that is exclusive to women.

And I can't change anything in other states, but they enacted the bill suggesting that female sanitary items would not be taxed, but they did not enact the bill suggesting that other medical items such as wheelchairs and oxygen tanks wouldnt be taxed. So, at least in my state (which is modeled after California's democratic system), they are putting women first.
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Bramble says

men are more likely to get jobs than women, pay gap IS real and has been documented by several researchers, toiletries are overpriced to hell and back (NOT because of how often theyre used, rather because men dont understand how much women depend on them)


not arguing the second point because companies would hire only women if they would be able to get away with paying them less.

Explain what statistics you have behind the first point of that?
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men are more likely to get jobs than women, pay gap IS real and has been documented by several researchers, toiletries are overpriced to hell and back (NOT because of how often theyre used, rather because men dont understand how much women depend on them)
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sl0nderman says

People with radically different morals and values living close together is a good thing!


That already happens, what are you talking about?
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what country are you even from jobe