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JonSnow
over 6 years

Hello everyone! I would like to ask the people who are interested in this event to participate and contribute as much as possible.

In order for 2 new roles to be added to em, the community has to work together to refine the ideas that are going to be mentioned below. We have to collectively select 2 of the best ideas and make sure their version is the best one possible. The next step would be to come up with some sort of artwork for the selected roles. Lucid mentioned something about rewarding the users behind the artwork that would get selected in the end for those 2 roles.

Jack the Ripper (originally Hypocrite)

  • Jack the Ripper hates anyone who kills.
  • Jack the Ripper only wins when the game ends and all murderers are dead.
  • If Jack the Ripper receives a gun or knife and kills someone with it, he will not consider himself a murderer.
  • To Jack the Ripper, murderers are killing roles or any other player that has successfully eliminated someone else (shot, stabbed, blown up, etc.)
  • If a player survives one of these actions, Jack the Ripper will not consider the attacker a murderer. (~Jennings)

Cat Lady

  • Chooses one player every night. The player is instantly alerted that a cat is at their door. They have two options: Kill the cat, and let it go. If you kill the cat, you are roleblocked and the Cat Lady doesn't know who was visited. If you let it go, the Cat Lady learns your role.
  • Sided with the mafia. (~Her)

Robinhood

  • Visits two people, taking all items from the first and giving them to the second (cannot visit self either way)
  • Action fails if trying to steal from a mafia
  • Sided with the village (~Torreador)

Vice President

  • If the president dies, takes their place
  • All townies immediately receive a message of their new president
  • Attends mafia meetings, and makes them anonymous
  • Cannot win if they are the vice president (~Alyssa)

Gossiper

  • Chooses one person every night.
  • Will see some whispers this person receives/makes.
  • Gossiper's action does not count as a visit.
  • Sided with the mafia. (~Soluciones)

(revising) the Seer

  • Knows all mafia from the beginning of the game.
  • If lynched at the end of the game, the last mafia can guess who the Seer is for autowin.
  • If the Seer dies, they will appear as a random (non-mafia) role in the setup and their will will always be blank. If dead, the mafia can still attempt a guess to the Seer's identity at the end of the game.
  • If there are multiple Seers in a game, only one Seer will know the mafia at any given time.
  • If there are two mafias and multiple Seers, the knowledge of the mafias will be split between them.
  • Sided with the village. (~Shwartz99)

Whistleblower

  • Once per game can force someone to vote someone else. Vote cannot be OT'D if it is a hammer. Sided with maf (Will create more tension in selfing/hammering based setups (~Moldyches)

Soldier

  • If they are the last man standing against a single mafia or third party, the village wins.
  • Sided with the village. (~XFire)

PowerTown

  • Each night chooses a power role from the options provided to him. (the mods should determine the list)
  • Night meeting goes accordingly
  • Sided with the village

PowerMafia

  • Each night chooses a mafia role from the list.
  • Night meeting goes accordingly
  • Sided with the mafia
What is your favorite role mentioned in this thread?
50
Cat Lady
26
Vice President
22
the Seer
12
Robinhood
12
Soldier
6
Jack the Ripper
6
Whistleblower
4
Gossiper
SteelixMega
over 6 years
Page 69 Nice
GrannyPixel
over 6 years

admin says

final final roles until graveyard roles (medium and mourner and that role that destroy souls lol)


The name Exorcist was suggested for the soul destroying role and I think it is pretty good.
GrannyPixel
over 6 years

MisterPresident says


admin says


MisterPresident says

Lucid, what if ppl want to leave the game? Medium will be useless if people leave


in games with graveyard dependent roles, they will get a system message telling them that leaving the game will count as leaving the game before it ends


Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Dislike :(

Would they get a GRS violation if they leave from the graveyard? Or what if they ISP and do not answer the medium?


I don't think they HAVE to answer Medium, or do anything else. However, they just can't leave.

Maybe you should have to play more games to be able to play in these new GY games - similar to how you need 1500 ranked to play in comps. This will ensure troll accounts can't easily get in.
moonlightseal
over 6 years
because this kind of topic is only popular when Lucid decides to make new roles
Songin
over 6 years
Just an idea, but why not make a seperate forum for role/site recommendations? So that it's easier for players to fish through and see what's recommended.

Also give me the spare keys to the site.
Songin
over 6 years

admin says


Songin says


admin says


sl0nderman says

https://epicmafia.com/topic/91148

please consider this thread before moving on to GY roles or its going to be a mess


i think graveyard games will be naturally no role reveal on death. there may even be a separate voting phase in GY, perhaps some role would win if they could vote for another in the graveyard!


Make graveyard games work seperately from normal ones, so that when there's no graveyard-manipulated roles, players can leave.


yea, was going to do just that!


Then I have no issues with this. Looking forward to it!
MisterPresident
over 6 years

admin says


MisterPresident says

Lucid, what if ppl want to leave the game? Medium will be useless if people leave


in games with graveyard dependent roles, they will get a system message telling them that leaving the game will count as leaving the game before it ends


Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Dislike :(

Would they get a GRS violation if they leave from the graveyard? Or what if they ISP and do not answer the medium?
Taki
over 6 years

Shwartz99 says

hold on doesnt that mean whistleblower can just whistleblow on themself for lynching immunity


no, except themselves was suggested
Shwartz99
over 6 years
hold on doesnt that mean whistleblower can just whistleblow on themself for lynching immunity
moonlightseal
over 6 years
sharpshooter tinkerer bug
https://epicmafia.com/game/6775616
I killed tinkerer and got a message that I found a gun
but I got no gun
shayneismyname
over 6 years
So in non graveyard games, people in the gy can still spectate?
admin
over 6 years

Songin says


admin says


sl0nderman says

https://epicmafia.com/topic/91148

please consider this thread before moving on to GY roles or its going to be a mess


i think graveyard games will be naturally no role reveal on death. there may even be a separate voting phase in GY, perhaps some role would win if they could vote for another in the graveyard!


Make graveyard games work seperately from normal ones, so that when there's no graveyard-manipulated roles, players can leave.


yea, was going to do just that!
Songin
over 6 years

admin says


sl0nderman says

https://epicmafia.com/topic/91148

please consider this thread before moving on to GY roles or its going to be a mess


i think graveyard games will be naturally no role reveal on death. there may even be a separate voting phase in GY, perhaps some role would win if they could vote for another in the graveyard!


Make graveyard games work seperately from normal ones, so that when there's no graveyard-manipulated roles, players can leave.
admin
over 6 years

sl0nderman says

https://epicmafia.com/topic/91148

please consider this thread before moving on to GY roles or its going to be a mess


i think graveyard games will be naturally no role reveal on death. there may even be a separate voting phase in GY, perhaps some role would win if they could vote for another in the graveyard!
admin
over 6 years

MisterPresident says

Lucid, what if ppl want to leave the game? Medium will be useless if people leave


in games with graveyard dependent roles, they will get a system message telling them that leaving the game will count as leaving the game before it ends
sl0nderman
over 6 years
https://epicmafia.com/topic/91148

please consider this thread before moving on to GY roles or its going to be a mess
MisterPresident
over 6 years
Lucid, what if ppl want to leave the game? Medium will be useless if people leave
admin
over 6 years
final final roles until graveyard roles (medium and mourner and that role that destroy souls lol)
admin
over 6 years

Taki says


Alyssa says



Whistleblower
Visits one non-mafia person at night.
The next day, that person will be unable to vote or be voted for.
The Whistleblower may not visit the same person for two days in a row.
The Whistleblower’s visit will not go through when the game is in a three-way.
Sided with the mafia


Hi Lucid I dislike this role. While this may block someone from voting, everyone will know the mechanic and it will essentially clear one person every time it's used.

Whistleblower should be able to use it on anyone except for themselves(or other whistleblowers for that matter, I guess). This won't break the role, because if a whistleblower does it on mylo then everyone will immediately fos whoever the whistleblower saves, giving it comp value, as people will then have to scum hunt the whistleblower as an immediate threat.

Keep three-way restriction in case whistleblower+townie dies in at night leaving 3 players left, but other than that I think this would balance the role out.

I hope it to look like this

Whistleblower
Visits one person at night, besides themselves.
The next day, that person will be unable to vote or be voted for.
The Whistleblower may not visit the same person for two days in a row.
The Whistleblower's visit will not go through when the game is in a three-way.
Sided with the Mafia.

Essentially the same, but this will fix the role into having value.


I can already see whistleblower and diabolist making a great team already.


wow, long quote

i fixed whistleblower

will add Usurper and Queen Bee tomorrow
Golbolco
over 6 years

lucaskart says


lucaskart says

Does this count as a graveyard role?

Coroner:

.Investigates a dead person each night.
.By investigating the dead person's body she will discover if the victim was killed by either a town member, a mafia member or a third party.
.She will also discover the cause of the death.
.If the body was cleared by a Janitor, she won't receive any reports.
.Sided with village.


So what do you guys think about this role?


I would rather it provide a list of all the players who visited the dead person while they were alive, instead of find out who killed it. Seems like that would have more use to me.
lucaskart
over 6 years

lucaskart says

Does this count as a graveyard role?

Coroner:

.Investigates a dead person each night.
.By investigating the dead person's body she will discover if the victim was killed by either a town member, a mafia member or a third party.
.She will also discover the cause of the death.
.If the body was cleared by a Janitor, she won't receive any reports.
.Sided with village.


So what do you guys think about this role?
Taki
over 6 years

Alyssa says



Whistleblower
Visits one non-mafia person at night.
The next day, that person will be unable to vote or be voted for.
The Whistleblower may not visit the same person for two days in a row.
The Whistleblower’s visit will not go through when the game is in a three-way.
Sided with the mafia


Hi Lucid I dislike this role. While this may block someone from voting, everyone will know the mechanic and it will essentially clear one person every time it's used.

Whistleblower should be able to use it on anyone except for themselves(or other whistleblowers for that matter, I guess). This won't break the role, because if a whistleblower does it on mylo then everyone will immediately fos whoever the whistleblower saves, giving it comp value, as people will then have to scum hunt the whistleblower as an immediate threat.

Keep three-way restriction in case whistleblower+townie dies in at night leaving 3 players left, but other than that I think this would balance the role out.

I hope it to look like this

Whistleblower
Visits one person at night, besides themselves.
The next day, that person will be unable to vote or be voted for.
The Whistleblower may not visit the same person for two days in a row.
The Whistleblower's visit will not go through when the game is in a three-way.
Sided with the Mafia.

Essentially the same, but this will fix the role into having value.


I can already see whistleblower and diabolist making a great team already.
Alyssa
over 6 years


Whistleblower
Visits one non-mafia person at night.
The next day, that person will be unable to vote or be voted for.
The Whistleblower may not visit the same person for two days in a row.
The Whistleblower’s visit will not go through when the game is in a three-way.
Sided with the mafia


Hi Lucid I dislike this role. While this may block someone from voting, everyone will know the mechanic and it will essentially clear one person every time it's used.

Whistleblower should be able to use it on anyone except for themselves(or other whistleblowers for that matter, I guess). This won't break the role, because if a whistleblower does it on mylo then everyone will immediately fos whoever the whistleblower saves, giving it comp value, as people will then have to scum hunt the whistleblower as an immediate threat.

Keep three-way restriction in case whistleblower+townie dies in at night leaving 3 players left, but other than that I think this would balance the role out.

I hope it to look like this

Whistleblower
Visits one person at night, besides themselves.
The next day, that person will be unable to vote or be voted for.
The Whistleblower may not visit the same person for two days in a row.
The Whistleblower's visit will not go through when the game is in a three-way.
Sided with the Mafia.

Essentially the same, but this will fix the role into having value.
PosterChild
over 6 years
I want all of this to work but I just don't know how to feel about it.
PosterChild
over 6 years
Then again that's gonna be a pain in the to deal with. Imagine having to keep up with the alive chat AND the dead chat trying to figure out what's going on so you're actually helpful when you're ressurected.

Considering the alive chat doesn't see the dead chat you're gonna have to be reading super fast to catch everything.