about 6 years

im so tired of people not recognizing ace/aro people as lgbt. what yall think????

this is coming from the big gay herself so i think i can speak on this issue

what yall think
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no not really
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they gay
about 6 years
can i just point out that the poll is basically saying that we should consider asexuals gay?
about 6 years

ulmaridae says

captcha how are you not getting it.... the split attraction thing especially is EXTREMELY shaky since it lets very cishet people into lgbt spaces. it's not for them. and then all the heteroromantic homosexual etc nonsense that validates those sweet sweet internalized issues


You literally cannot be heteroSEXUAL if you don't feel sexual urges in the first place...how are you not getting this?

You can be heteroromantic, but that's not sexuality.
about 6 years

ulmaridae says

if you're straight(the heteroromantic type) but not physically attracted.... how is that special? a whole ton of people who don't id as ace already only care about emotional chemisty and are completely prone to cishet dumbаssery


Not feeling sexual urges makes one asexual by default. Asexuality has nothing to do with romantic feelings, just sexual feelings; however, someone can be both asexual and aromantic.

The distinction matters because romantic feelings aren't always tied to sexual urges. Haven't you ever liked someone romantically, but not sexually? It's like that, but permanent.

Being prone to "cishet dumbassery" has absolutely nothing to do with someone's orientation lmao. Many asexual people don't identify as such and that is fine.
about 6 years
captcha how are you not getting it.... the split attraction thing especially is EXTREMELY shaky since it lets very cishet people into lgbt spaces. it's not for them. and then all the heteroromantic homosexual etc nonsense that validates those sweet sweet internalized issues
about 6 years

Captcha says


Vapid says


Captcha says


Vapid says

Adding people who are not oppressed trivializes the movement.


If a gay person lived in a hypothetical country which had little to no discrimination against gay people, are the gay people there not LGBT?

Plus, if straight people were actually discriminated against in that hypothetical country, could all straight people be considered LGBT just because they faced hardship?


There is no need for LGBT movements if there's no oppression, lmao. Nobody should give a sh*t then.


That didn't answer my question. Go leave like you said you would and come back with a clearer head.


That other person who said I do it because I like arguing was right :|

I'll answer your question. Grouping Lesbians, gays, bis, and transexuals and other whatevers, is only a thing in our real world, because they are all oppressed for their sexuality. If there was no oppression, they wouldn't be grouped up the way they would. You're basically trying to make the claim that LGBT is a movement about not being straight and sexual, when it isn't.

Your question is and shows that you're not being critical. "LGBTQ+" was smaller originally but then grew to recognize other non cis groups for being oppressed for the same reason by cis people. If there was a country where these groups weren't oppressed and straight people were, for being straight that is. There would just be a straight movement.
about 6 years

sl0nderman says

why does the lgb community need to accept all "irregulars," when clearly the community is formed around a single common trait?


progression probably.
about 6 years
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about 6 years

ulmaridae says

if you're straight(the heteroromantic type) but not physically attracted.... how is that special? a whole ton of people who don't id as ace already only care about emotional chemisty and are completely prone to cishet dumbаssery


Not feeling any sexual urges makes one asexual by default. It doesn't matter if they can feel romance. If they can, they are romantic, not sexual. aSEXUAL

Haven't you ever liked somebody only romantically, but not sexually? It's like that, but permanent.

I didn't say all heteroromantic people identify as asexual. They can if they want to, though.
about 6 years

ulmaridae says

slond why do you keep chopping of the T


because it can be complicated discussing trans people and what's considered same sex attraction so i'm avoiding it.

besides if you consider yourself a gay or bi trans person then you're already covered.
about 6 years
no i went from naruto to bnha. i have never even desired to touch the other shiite
about 6 years

Vapid says


Captcha says


Vapid says

Adding people who are not oppressed trivializes the movement.


If a gay person lived in a hypothetical country which had little to no discrimination against gay people, are the gay people there not LGBT?

Plus, if straight people were actually discriminated against in that hypothetical country, could all straight people be considered LGBT just because they faced hardship?


There is no need for LGBT movements if there's no oppression, lmao. Nobody should give a sh*t then.


That didn't answer my question. Go leave like you said you would and come back with a clearer head.
about 6 years

ulmaridae says

if you're straight(the heteroromantic type) but not physically attracted.... how is that special? a whole ton of people who don't id as ace already only care about emotional chemisty and are completely prone to cishet dumbаssery


you've most likely went from homestuck to undertale to steven universe to my hero academia, right?

you're one of the socially inept groups that aren't worth discussions.
about 6 years
slond why do you keep chopping of the T
about 6 years

xela says

I feel like asexuals do face some level of oppression in relationships where the popular belief is that no sex = no love. I mean people choose to be celibate based on religious choices, etc but it's hard to believe someone can be in love with someone but not want to sleep with them at all, and that can be a rough idea to send their partners. So some level of understanding about this subset of sexuality or lack of is necessary.

That being said and to repeat my prior point but without jokes, I don't understand the the need for exclusiveness on the part of the LGBT community to keep it at that level. Like the whole point was to create a community where these differences in sexuality and gender can be appreciated and celebrated but I doubt the creation of the community was meant to limit itself there. Sure adding letters is stupid but adding people as part of said diversity should be one of the main points of the community yet you guys are showing the toxic side which is sort of ironic, though I understand you're a small subset and this isn't the most socially stable groups to take opinions from.


why does the lgb community need to accept all "irregulars," when clearly the community is formed around a single common trait?
about 6 years
yes let's decide who isnt lgbt based on hypothetical worlds without oppression lmao
about 6 years

Captcha says


Vapid says

Adding people who are not oppressed trivializes the movement.


If a gay person lived in a hypothetical country which had little to no discrimination against gay people, are the gay people there not LGBT?

Plus, if straight people were actually discriminated against in that hypothetical country, could all straight people be considered LGBT just because they faced hardship?


There is no need for LGBT movements if there's no oppression, lmao. Nobody should give a sh*t then.
about 6 years
if you're straight(the heteroromantic type) but not physically attracted.... how is that special? a whole ton of people who don't id as ace already only care about emotional chemisty and are completely prone to cishet dumbаssery
about 6 years

Vapid says

Lmao. Why am I defending the LGBTQ community this way? Queers are pretty r*tarded...


because you enjoy arguing in the internet, probably.
about 6 years
Asexual people aren't oppressed and the whole movement is a mess anyways. Later.
about 6 years
Lmao. Why am I defending the LGBTQ community this way? Queers are pretty r*tarded...
about 6 years
That is if it wasn't Wild at all
about 6 years

Vapid says

Adding people who are not oppressed trivializes the movement.


If a gay person lived in a hypothetical country which had little to no discrimination against gay people, are the gay people there not LGBT?

Plus, if straight people were actually discriminated against in that hypothetical country, could all straight people be considered LGBT just because they faced hardship?
about 6 years
This thread is like the Wild Wild West
about 6 years
I feel like asexuals do face some level of oppression in relationships where the popular belief is that no sex = no love. I mean people choose to be celibate based on religious choices, etc but it's hard to believe someone can be in love with someone but not want to sleep with them at all, and that can be a rough idea to send their partners. So some level of understanding about this subset of sexuality or lack of is necessary.

That being said and to repeat my prior point but without jokes, I don't understand the the need for exclusiveness on the part of the LGBT community to keep it at that level. Like the whole point was to create a community where these differences in sexuality and gender can be appreciated and celebrated but I doubt the creation of the community was meant to limit itself there. Sure adding letters is stupid but adding people as part of said diversity should be one of the main points of the community yet you guys are showing the toxic side which is sort of ironic, though I understand you're a small subset and this isn't the most socially stable groups to take opinions from.
about 6 years

Vapid says


SHENANIGANS says


cowboy says


SHENANIGANS says

i tend to think of them as included in the queer umbrella.


LGBT people have been killed for being queer. which is a slur. ace ppl are not queer lol


i guess. again, battling over who is "more oppressed" is silly imo. sure, there may be a correct answer in the debate, but it's a zero-sum game.


Adding people who are not oppressed trivializes the movement.


i disagree.