SHENANIGANS says

Devante says

SHENANIGANS says

ace people exist in a way that's outside society's expected norm, just like lgbt people. ace people get scoffed at for breaking that norm, just like lgbt people.

i will say the whole oppression olympics thing really brings me down and is one part of the reason why ive distanced myself from queer spaces as ive matured.

in my own experience ace folk dont face the same level of bigotry that lgbt people do, though there are certainly incidents im aware of where ace folk have experienced extreme prejudice/violence because of their identity. corrective r ape is sadly still a thing. with all that wholistically in mind, i tend to think of them as included in the queer umbrella.

corrective r)pe???
where do you live to have you witnessed this? Dubai?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrective_rape

see someone said this before, this falls under misogyny, not "aphobia"

cowboy says

SHENANIGANS says

i tend to think of them as included in the queer umbrella.

LGBT people have been killed for being queer. which is a slur. ace ppl are not queer lol

i guess. again, battling over who is "more oppressed" is silly imo. sure, there may be a correct answer in the debate, but it's a zero-sum game.

Captcha says

ulmaridae says

are all cis women asexual for having a lower sex drive?

No, because that is the heterosexual normal. Remember, LGBTQ+ is all based on relativity to the hetero/cis normal. That's what makes them different.

LGBT ≠ ∀ person ∈ ¬Heterosexual

Devante says

SHENANIGANS says

ace people exist in a way that's outside society's expected norm, just like lgbt people. ace people get scoffed at for breaking that norm, just like lgbt people.

i will say the whole oppression olympics thing really brings me down and is one part of the reason why ive distanced myself from queer spaces as ive matured.

in my own experience ace folk dont face the same level of bigotry that lgbt people do, though there are certainly incidents im aware of where ace folk have experienced extreme prejudice/violence because of their identity. corrective r ape is sadly still a thing. with all that wholistically in mind, i tend to think of them as included in the queer umbrella.

corrective r)pe???
where do you live to have you witnessed this? Dubai?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrective_rape

SHENANIGANS says

i tend to think of them as included in the queer umbrella.

LGBT people have been killed for being queer. which is a slur. ace ppl are not queer lol

heterosexual norm

SHENANIGANS says

ace people exist in a way that's outside society's expected norm, just like lgbt people. ace people get scoffed at for breaking that norm, just like lgbt people.

i will say the whole oppression olympics thing really brings me down and is one part of the reason why ive distanced myself from queer spaces as ive matured.

in my own experience ace folk dont face the same level of bigotry that lgbt people do, though there are certainly incidents im aware of where ace folk have experienced extreme prejudice/violence because of their identity. corrective r ape is sadly still a thing. with all that wholistically in mind, i tend to think of them as included in the queer umbrella.

corrective r)pe???
where do you live to have you witnessed this? Dubai?

Captcha says

Devante says

For men that is caused by lower testosterone levels, that's why men will report a major decline in their sex drives & balls shrinking
for women it's caused by lower estrogen levels.

Not some god damn asexual bs lol

Not always. Sometimes it is mental or biological (born without the necessary hormone recievers), and even if it IS just due to low testo/estro, how does that not make them asexual?

If someone was gay due to high estrogen, does that not make them gay?

yeah... the point I and (maybe vapid) are trying to make is; being asexual is most definetly a thing, it can be biologically proven (lack of hormones)
however, there is no oppression you face NOT wanting to have sex.

the reason LGBT makes sense is because when a person is openly gay, lesbian, has a sex change or cross-dresses they're sometimes met with disgust, dirty looks, they may be assaulted, they may lose out on job opportunities etc...

You not wanting to fk anyone doesn't matter, Nuns & priests (maybe not priests lol) have been doing this for CENTURIES

if you insist on defining lgbt like that i hope you at least have a line drawn for what is and isn't a societal norm, considering some of the nonsense people try to pass as ~Queer~

ace people exist in a way that's outside society's expected norm, just like lgbt people. ace people get scoffed at for breaking that norm, just like lgbt people.

i will say the whole oppression olympics thing really brings me down and is one part of the reason why ive distanced myself from queer spaces as ive matured.

in my own experience ace folk dont face the same level of bigotry that lgbt people do, though there are certainly incidents im aware of where ace folk have experienced extreme prejudice/violence because of their identity. corrective r ape is sadly still a thing. with all that wholistically in mind, i tend to think of them as included in the queer umbrella.

i tend to think of them as included in the queer umbrella.

Mori says

cowboy says

ace ppl have never been oppressed like the LGBT community. ace isnt even a sexuality, its a lack of sexual attraction. NEXT

Wrong. Ace people are invisibilized and invalidated constantly.

they havent been systematically oppressed or mass killed for it hi

Devante says

For men that is caused by lower testosterone levels, that's why men will report a major decline in their sex drives & balls shrinking
for women it's caused by lower estrogen levels.

Not some god damn asexual bs lol

Not always. Sometimes it is mental or biological (born without the necessary hormone recievers), and even if it IS just due to low testo/estro, how does that not make them asexual?

If someone was gay due to high estrogen, does that not make them gay?

ulmaridae says

are all cis women asexual for having a lower sex drive?

No, because that is the heterosexual normal. Remember, LGBTQ+ is all based on relativity to the hetero/cis normal. That's what makes them different.

I think you guys(gays) should take in the asexual community because the extra letters means more allies and that makes you stronger against the oppression but like you gotta feel special and inclusive and that's just not a strategic move

cowboy says

ace ppl have never been oppressed like the LGBT community. ace isnt even a sexuality, its a lack of sexual attraction. NEXT

Wrong. Ace people are invisibilized and invalidated constantly.

what about lesbian cis women then?

are all cis women asexual for having a lower sex drive?

Yes. I've always been this stupid,
No, disappointing parents doesn't make you marginalized or oppressed.

strippers and escorts have been doing this for decades

Vapid says

Okay but the one asexual person here masturbates. They're clearly not asexual.

Oh wow, one person on a flash site represents every asexual person on Earth.