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PETRI BACK TO HER OLD WAYS

over 7 years

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THIS IS GREAT I'M LAUGHING

SO MUCH FOR BEING REFORMED

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over 7 years

thecolonel says


projectmatt says


thecolonel says

there's a massive disconnect in masculinity across the last 50 years vs the 50 years before that


i think this is a good thing for the most part, but that's probably based on a fundamental disagreement on how people should be. if people are generally breaking gender roles and allowing themselves to be more open about emotions, i think that's good.


good for what?


i think that people tend to be way too insecure about their masculinity, and it's generally harmful toward the population. stuff like "men don't cry" reinforces and prevents males from being open about their emotions and seeking help when they need it because they have an image that they feel like they need to uphold.

if that image of being "strong" and "masculine" isn't as huge anymore, i'm cool with that.
over 7 years

thecolonel says

they are not born that way. there's 0 possibility transgender is genetic if you also think expressing it isn't a choice. it hardly existed before the last few decades


but there is a strong link to it being genetic based o the 15 studies i linked you earlier that i can find again.

again, let's compare this to being gay.

if somebody is gay, they certainly did not choose to be gay - they were born with, or at least, developed the perception that the same gender is attractive.

technically speaking, they -could- hide their sexuality and never show any attraction to the same-sex whatsoever, but that would not be healthy for them on a mental level. since sexuality is such a big part of who you are, it's not healthy to act as though your own attractions don't exist.

the same goes for transgender people - they can -choose- to hide it, but it's clear that doing so would understandably make them more miserable, and do nothing to help change the way they feel.

also, there's a whole bunch of cultures dating very far back that had the conception of people with multiple genders, i can also find that if youre interested.
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on a scale a few orders of magnitude smaller
over 7 years
i mean.. ppl have been dressing up as the opposite gender for quite a while buddy even if the term for it wasnt around
over 7 years
my point is that a now-transgender person with the same genes born a hundred years ago would not be transgender
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comparing 2 completely different situations (trench warfare and growing up trans) is kind of flawed bc like if the worst pain you ever experienced was stubbing your toe then obviously your perception of pain would be skewed so that stubbing your pain became the worst thing you could imagine

so yeah being trans f*cking blows and i really feel bad for those ppl who arent being ridiculous and asking to be called xe because they just wanna be chill and live their life and im OK with that
over 7 years

projectmatt says


thecolonel says

there's a massive disconnect in masculinity across the last 50 years vs the 50 years before that


i think this is a good thing for the most part, but that's probably based on a fundamental disagreement on how people should be. if people are generally breaking gender roles and allowing themselves to be more open about emotions, i think that's good.


good for what?
over 7 years
they are not born that way. there's 0 possibility transgender is genetic if you also think expressing it isn't a choice. it hardly existed before the last few decades
over 7 years

thecolonel says

there's a massive disconnect in masculinity across the last 50 years vs the 50 years before that


i think this is a good thing for the most part, but that's probably based on a fundamental disagreement on how people should be. if people are generally breaking gender roles and allowing themselves to be more open about emotions, i think that's good.
over 7 years

thecolonel says

it's like this, if you were born as a frenchman or german in the early 1900s you would be responsible for engaging in trench warfare and probably go down to shell shock in one or two days, and now you think it's legitimate that people kill themselves because other people don't want to accept the strange ways they express themselves


no, transgender people kill themselves because they are born in a way that creates a lot of dissonance in themselves, and causes them to struggle - and their struggles are disregarded as fake, "attention-seeking", or silly. it's not just "not being accepted", it's a society where transgender people are more likely to have violent crimes/severe harassment committed against them, more likely to be fired, more likely to be homeless, more likely to be denied basic rights, etc, etc. it's so much more of a big issue than what you are saying.

it's not "OK" that transgender people kill themselves, but to pretend that it's easy or not incredibly difficult to go through life as a transgender person in most circumstances is really silly.
over 7 years
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over 7 years
;) rub my belly
over 7 years

ArieI says

i'm coming out as dogkin for the new year


are you trying to get me hard
over 7 years
i'm coming out as dogkin for the new year
over 7 years
there's a massive disconnect in masculinity across the last 50 years vs the 50 years before that
over 7 years
new Year same me
over 7 years
it's like this, if you were born as a frenchman or german in the early 1900s you would be responsible for engaging in trench warfare and probably go down to shell shock in one or two days, and now you think it's legitimate that people kill themselves because other people don't want to accept the strange ways they express themselves
over 7 years
lol tatami deleted his funny a'ss post i swear you people are so sensitive
over 7 years

ArieI says

im ok with trans people but im not ok with people wanting me to state my pronouns when i introduce myself and start using made up pronouns


i'm sure you can find exceptions, but the majority of transgender people just want to be referred to the pronouns of the specific gender they identify as (he or she), or as neutral pronouns (they/them). I've honestly never run into "made-up pronouns" IRL, even at my p. liberal university. I'm sure it happens, but I really don't think it's a big thing.
over 7 years
https://epicmafia.com/user/633233 found another petri acc
over 7 years

thecolonel says

do all your friends in pennsylvania pass the time talking about how much they don't believe in the legitimacy of transgender


i come from a pretty religious and pretty conservative hometown, and you would be surprised at the amount of general bigotry/hostility that happens here. the people i do know who are lgbt/gender non-conforming tend to stay very far in the closet.
over 7 years

thecolonel says

rates of depression after transition can't be analyzed well if rates of depression before transition aren't consistent. i don't know what methodology that paper you linked used but my point is that there's nowhere near enough consistency for any consensus


ah okay i see what you're saying, but the specific studies i've seen aren't comparing the general transgender populace after transition to transgender people before transition - they are quizzing specific people who are undergoing transition surgery, and examining the effects of those specific people - which points to a larger trend of people who have transitioned generally being less depressed.

of course, it's possible that things can be skewed - but the data seems to be positive.

i'm not sure what issues you're referring to with that post, to be honest. is it a critique of how you believe this generation is full of snowflakes, or something along those lines? i'm kinda confused about it.
over 7 years
im ok with trans people but im not ok with people pretending they aren't deeply troubled
over 7 years
do all your friends in pennsylvania pass the time talking about how much they don't believe in the legitimacy of transgender
over 7 years
im ok with trans people but im not ok with people wanting me to state my pronouns when i introduce myself and start using made up pronouns