why would it be better if gender roles didnt exist, most of the population is very happy with this system.
i'm under the assumption that a system that doesn't have traditional gender roles (like men -need- to be super tough and strong, women need to be the caretakers), etc, would generally be a society where people would be more free to be who they are as opposed to what they assume they are -supposed- to do
but i understand that a society like that ever happening is v. idealistic
Am I catering to misogyny in the universe because I feel good about myself due to cleaning and cooking well
no, there's nothing wrong with doing what you like to do. the issue is mainly when people can't do things because they are told it's only allowed for certain genders to do so
i won't rest until i can marry rich and divorce for alimony
Am I catering to misogyny in the universe because I feel good about myself due to cleaning and cooking well
no, there's nothing wrong with doing what you like to do. the issue is mainly when people can't do things because they are told it's only allowed for certain genders to do so
it doesn't matter how many articles you link if they don't say anything
it seems that you're not actually reading what any of them have to say, though. in fact, you straight-up refused to read an article because you thought that the thesis wouldn't be provable.
i read the abstract and there was obviously no methodology in it that would back up what they said. i don't have library access so i can't read the full things until my BRO wakes up
this is the article, you should be able to read it for free:
this isn't even primary literature, it's just like how you described it except there are zero conclusions about gender perception so where did you get that interpretation
quote from the article:
"In humans, the BSTc has been shown to develop differentially in people with a gender identity disorder called transsexuality, in which subjects express the strong feeling of being born in the wrong body. Indeed, these studies showed that the size of the BSTc in male-to-female transsexuals is similar to that found in control women, whereas in the only female-to-male transsexual studied so far the BSTc size was similar to that found in men [94,180]. Therefore, it might be that the human BSTc has a role in human gender identity, however, it must be noted that this is merely correlational, and require far more studies to clearly elucidate the functions of the human BSTc."
That's when it directly talks about transexuality, but the entire study is about how our brains have different genetics depending on the gender.
i will concede that the article itself doesn't talk about gender -perception- as much as i initially thought it did, as i was misunderstanding certain parts of it/comparing it with other things
I like gender roles because I can bake and appear to be doing something hard but I enjoy it and then send arcbell off to do some task like buying toilet paper which I loathe
Psychology is a major social science (if that's what you were arguing above, thecolonel) but social sciences absolutely do not provide the rock solid empirical evidence that natural sciences do.
In Psychology, you have to be skeptical of any and all final results of studies and experiments whatever they may be. This is because psychologists and other higher-ups in the field are the ones to draw the line on whether or not data reaches a significant level of proof.
Researchers themselves have so many degrees of freedom within their own experiments and studies that p-hacking and other bias is an incredibly prevalent concern. In fact, there is a massive debate in the psychology realm about whether or not a lot of mainstream and accepted psychological results were false-positives. The general acceptance of p-values is dropping because of the subjective understanding of whether or not the 95% confidence level is accurate or not.
Of course you can form your own conclusions, but psychology is not anywhere close as reliable as a natural science.
People nowadays are trying to make males and females absolutely equal in every way regarding masculinity norms and femininity norms. Basically, it's okay for men to be feminine and for women to be masculine. People who believe that openly support the breaking of gender norms in every possible aspect (i.e men expressing feelings). How come, then, people who are transgendered do everything they can to "be female" if they were male, or "be male" if they were female? If, really, society was trying to break gender norms, why must transgenders feel the need to change their labels and fit into a specific gender?
I don't know how to convey my thoughts this late lol
i could be off here, but i'll try to respond
i think people get confused about it because they think "if gender is a construct, why are people still attached to it?"
it's because even though most gender roles are a construct, it's still a very huge part of our society and the way it functions.
currency is a construct, but we rely on currency because it's built on how we run things - it's the same idea with gender roles
so like, someone who is a female to male transgender person might try to do things they perceive as -male- because it's the only thing they know with regards to how that sex functions.
it would be much better if gender roles didn't exist in the first place, but i know that is idealistic.
it doesn't matter how many articles you link if they don't say anything
it seems that you're not actually reading what any of them have to say, though. in fact, you straight-up refused to read an article because you thought that the thesis wouldn't be provable.
i read the abstract and there was obviously no methodology in it that would back up what they said. i don't have library access so i can't read the full things until my BRO wakes up
this is the article, you should be able to read it for free:
this isn't even primary literature, it's just like how you described it except there are zero conclusions about gender perception so where did you get that interpretation
it doesn't matter how many articles you link if they don't say anything
it seems that you're not actually reading what any of them have to say, though. in fact, you straight-up refused to read an article because you thought that the thesis wouldn't be provable.
i read the abstract and there was obviously no methodology in it that would back up what they said. i don't have library access so i can't read the full things until my BRO wakes up
This is where I'm always confused: If gender-roles and brain chemistry aren't set in stone, and people are doing their best to break norms, why are others hell-bent on fitting in with the opposite stereotypes and norms if it's not their own assigned sex?
Attempting to play devil's advocate because it's 4:40 AM and for some reason my mind has been racing too much to sleep. I have to be up in 3 hours lol
not sure -quite- what you mean, but the general idea is that gender roles are almost always a construct, so people try to do things that are perceived as "for the other gender only" to break the idea that certain genders -need- to do certain things
I'm gonna try to reword:
People nowadays are trying to make males and females absolutely equal in every way regarding masculinity norms and femininity norms. Basically, it's okay for men to be feminine and for women to be masculine. People who believe that openly support the breaking of gender norms in every possible aspect (i.e men expressing feelings). How come, then, people who are transgendered do everything they can to "be female" if they were male, or "be male" if they were female? If, really, society was trying to break gender norms, why must transgenders feel the need to change their labels and fit into a specific gender?
I don't know how to convey my thoughts this late lol
you're literally just telling me "these are the opinions i've read"
no, it's "i linked you a bunch of peer-reviewed, academic, scientific studies that correlate to what i'm talking about, but you aren't reading them because you think what they are trying to point toward isn't possible"
personally when I want to win an argument, I just post a lot of links that look like reputable sources arguing my side, but really they're links to an image of my d1ck. I'll know they didn't read it when they don't reply "hey, why did you link me an image of your d1ck"
it doesn't matter how many articles you link if they don't say anything
it seems that you're not actually reading what any of them have to say, though. in fact, you straight-up refused to read an article because you thought that the thesis wouldn't be provable.
i read the abstract and there was obviously no methodology in it that would back up what they said. i don't have library access so i can't read the full things until my BRO wakes up
this is the article, you should be able to read it for free:
you're literally just telling me "these are the opinions i've read"
no, it's "i linked you a bunch of peer-reviewed, academic, scientific studies that correlate to what i'm talking about, but you aren't reading them because you think what they are trying to point toward isn't possible"