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Fixing roles and mafia features

about 8 years

Everyone wants their role to be added. This isn't for everyone.

While lucid is actually active at present, this thread is for fixing roles and mafia-related features. Improving the game itself is more important than adding a bunch of role clones.


Some role fixes

Some mafia features (emjack does all of these)

What should be focused on
30
Impeaching Bebop
17
Fixing bugs and role issues
12
The next Dino Quest chapter
8
Adding my role suggestion
7
Adding minigames
4
Adding QOL features to the base game
about 8 years
fun for who

everyone or just you
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I'm not saying it tells you who diabolist is, i'm just saying it would be more fun if the person dies silently without a death message during the day

Then they could predict themselves and get a free kill

Also trickster breaks the game
about 8 years
although, it could be made competitively viable if it predicts who a person will vote rather than triggering if a person changes their vote

that would be a better implementation overall
about 8 years
and that tells you who the diabolist is how, exactly?

people knowing there's a diabolist doesn't spoil diabolist, it means that changing votes (which is common, this is mafia) becomes a huge risk and diabolist achieves its intended effect

i hate calling it diabolist please call it scrutineer

also, it's definitely a sandbox role since in competitive mafia people will simply restrict voting to chat to cheat it, but in closed role setups that won't happen
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Because the person would die randomly during the day, it could only have been diabolist that killed them
about 8 years

Cubotv1 says

Don't change the diabolist, it's really good now

The person they cast a spell on dies silently with no message

Sometimes town doesn't even notice that person died

This is good because if there is a death message, diabolist is useless for the rest of the game so please don't change it

Kinda makes it a silent spy-killer type role

Edit: just remove the death message completely


how would a death message reveal diabolist?

reveal death message and will if it doesn't
about 8 years

Cubotv1 says

Don't change the diabolist, it's really good now

The person they cast a spell on dies silently with no message

Sometimes town doesn't even notice that person died

This is good because if there is a death message, diabolist is useless for the rest of the game so don't change it

Kinda makes it a silent spy-killer type role

Edit: just remove the death message completely


that's stupid
about 8 years
interactions tab for roles where it applies, hidden by default click to expand

deletedabout 8 years
Don't change the diabolist, it's really good now

The person they cast a spell on dies silently with no message

Sometimes town doesn't even notice that person died

This is good because if there is a death message, diabolist is useless for the rest of the game so don't change it

Kinda makes it a silent spy-killer type role

Even if town knows there's a voodoo or vent, the voodoo or vent can still kill people / confuse people but it would take a really stupid person to die from diabolist again

Edit: just remove the death message completely
about 8 years

cub says

since lucid keeps adding roles and new players have always been intimidated by having to learn a hundred roles to play the game, I have a suggestion for the Learn tab

divide All into Standard and Complete

the Standard tab only includes roles allowed in main lobby (that is, no sandbox roles)

the Complete tab includes all roles in the game


Or a link to every role , and how it works. Strategies, introduction and bio for every character. And when player gets a role he can click it and be linked to the page that has the info.

I will write it , if we go with that.

But honestly no one is intimidated. Well, sure some people do not know how the role works exactly , so they have to ask everyone... But most people learn by playing. I learned all roles from Sandbox gameplay.
about 8 years

admin says

Diabolist added, please let me know if there is a bug with this role


Death message doesn't appear until the end of the day (the following night)? It's a cool feature, but I don't think it's intended. lol
about 8 years
since lucid keeps adding roles and new players have always been intimidated by having to learn a hundred roles to play the game, I have a suggestion for the Learn tab

divide All into Standard and Complete

the Standard tab only includes roles allowed in main lobby (that is, no sandbox roles)

the Complete tab includes all roles in the game
about 8 years
hi lucid u never gave me tokens even though u used my icon for the game stack it (i submitted it under the alt matcha which has since then been deleted) thank u ily if u need anymore mini game icons i got u
about 8 years
I like the sprite, but I do prefer the other name. I'm torn.
about 8 years

cub says


Golbolco says


cub says


admin says

Diabolist added, please let me know if there is a bug with this role


are these roles being pm'd to you or something because i haven't seen trickster or diabolist anywhere


They're in the New Roles thread. ChefCrackhead posted Trickster before you posted Deceiver and Diabolist was the name of the Scrutineer role that sl0nderman made.


scrutineer makes way more sense than diabolist


this is cooler though
about 8 years

Golbolco says


cub says


admin says

Diabolist added, please let me know if there is a bug with this role


are these roles being pm'd to you or something because i haven't seen trickster or diabolist anywhere


They're in the New Roles thread. ChefCrackhead posted Trickster before you posted Deceiver and Diabolist was the name of the Scrutineer role that sl0nderman made.


scrutineer makes way more sense than diabolist
about 8 years
this is the fixed sprite
about 8 years

cub says


admin says

Diabolist added, please let me know if there is a bug with this role


are these roles being pm'd to you or something because i haven't seen trickster or diabolist anywhere


They're in the New Roles thread. ChefCrackhead posted Trickster before you posted Deceiver and Diabolist was the name suggested by Ben for the Scrutineer role that sl0nderman made.
about 8 years

admin says

Diabolist added, please let me know if there is a bug with this role


The bug I spot is that it's facing the wrong way :(
about 8 years
That's fine that you want to spare new players from the rare complexities of these things, but not having it as is equally as harmful, and saves the amount of times they'll end up in post game chat asking what the hell happened. Maybe a single page dedicated to listing these interactions would suffice. Even a pinned forum post would probably suffice.
about 8 years

admin says

Diabolist added, please let me know if there is a bug with this role


are these roles being pm'd to you or something because i haven't seen trickster or diabolist anywhere

oh god trickster is that god-awful lolsorandom roll
about 8 years
Diabolist added, please let me know if there is a bug with this role
about 8 years
that's another thing nobody considers while asking lucid to add a million and one roles

new players then go to the learn tab and see a million and one roles they have to learn to play the game
about 8 years
because it's polarizing to new players when these specifics will almost never happen and they're just trying to learn the basic, general function of a role

if you insist, there could be a click-to-expand "interactions" tab in role descriptions that state unique interactions between that role and others so new players aren't overwhelmed
about 8 years

cub says

the following falls under the category of improving roles

role easter eggs, which already exist

these are special, specific role interactions not mentioned in the role description
role easter eggs are fun additions for the most experienced mafia players and make the game more dynamic and interesting for everyone

examples of easter eggs already in the game:
- drunk kills driver
- paranoid cop can find aliens
- hookers turn virgins blue
- arsonist can burn trees
- penguins be matin' (it's in the role description but it really doesn't need to be it's a clutter as it is)
- there are more

suggested role easter eggs
- bodyguard has a 100% chance to kill when protecting celebrity
- when a terrorist rushes at a bomb, the bomb survives
- when a trapper traps a butterfly, it triggers the butterfly effect
- when a shrink visits a cop, he will always get a sane report (insane/paranoid/naive/etc)
- when a deputy shoots a sheriff, he's revealed as the new sheriff
- when a judge overturns a lynch, print the system message "Objection!"
- when a yakuza yaks a traitor, he becomes a yakuza
- giving bread to lazy cop has the same effect as drunking
- throwing a snowball at snowman has no effect (system message, effectively reveals snowman)
- if survivor and fool visit the same person, they learn each others roles
- if lyncher and fool both win, print something funny because it's the best

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separate role suggestion: paranoid cop is one of the least liked roles on the website, i suggest making it so that paranoid cops can get the exact roles of all third parties similar to alien while still finding all town and mafia guilty. this makes paranoid cop good for something


i'm fully in support of this, but i would change the terrorist/bomb interaction to be that if terrorist hits bomb, it kills another random player in addition to both of them