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Fixing roles and mafia features

about 8 years

Everyone wants their role to be added. This isn't for everyone.

While lucid is actually active at present, this thread is for fixing roles and mafia-related features. Improving the game itself is more important than adding a bunch of role clones.


Some role fixes

Some mafia features (emjack does all of these)

What should be focused on
30
Impeaching Bebop
17
Fixing bugs and role issues
12
The next Dino Quest chapter
8
Adding my role suggestion
7
Adding minigames
4
Adding QOL features to the base game
about 8 years
unless you know the item is from a trickster (spoiler: you don't), making them fabricated is tricking

it can also trick the mafia into thinking they got a gunsmith gun before shooting themselves in the face

isn't that exactly what you wanted, a trickster?
about 8 years
Trickster - Anarchist Bomb. This makes sence with the name. Trckster should Trick. Items should not always be fabricated or real.
about 8 years
is the sleepwalker mafia sided?

trickster should be an unhelpful town, we don't get enough of those anymore since everyone wants to be overpowered
about 8 years

cub says


xxerox says

Again, i want to say that Trickster should really hold to his name, and really be a trickster and give at random an Anarchist Bomb.


Also i think guns should have 50% chance to backfire, ball to not reveal, Vest to not work, Knife to not cause bleeding.

And Trickster should be third like Fool.


you suggested one good idea unintentionally:

the trickster should only hand out fabricated items


Then Trickster should be right off maf sided role instead of town sided role.
about 8 years
Yeah I think this change is for the best. I'm the kind of person who thinks that anything should be included, even variations, for the sake of completeness, but it's really only practical to have one version of this role.

So, yes, the Scrutineer should behave more closely to voodoo. It should not, unlike voodoo, have only a 50% chance to work because that was a terrible change.
about 8 years
I do not aprove on the name. Scrutineer is a bad name. He is mafia sided, not town sided.
about 8 years

xxerox says

Again, i want to say that Trickster should really hold to his name, and really be a trickster and give at random an Anarchist Bomb.


Also i think guns should have 50% chance to backfire, ball to not reveal, Vest to not work, Knife to not cause bleeding.

And Trickster should be third like Fool.


you suggested one good idea unintentionally:

the trickster should only hand out fabricated items
about 8 years
they're not very distinct, the scrutineer is already a "vote voodoo," what do you call two vote voodoos?

here's how the diabolist should work

1. rename it to scrutineer
2. the scrutineer predicts who someone will vote
if they predict correctly, the voter will die
the scrutineer can not predict that he himself will be voted (balancing)
about 8 years
Again, i want to say that Trickster should really hold to his name, and really be a trickster and give at random an Anarchist Bomb.


Also i think guns should have 50% chance to backfire, ball to not reveal, Vest to not work, Knife to not cause bleeding.

And Trickster should be third like Fool.
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What cub said before in competitive if town knows there's a diabolist they can just say who they're voting in the chat

So most likely it would only work in sandbox unless it got changed
about 8 years
The way I see it is that the proposed

sl0nderman says

What if the diabolist is someone who curses someone to die if they vote a certain player, like cub mentioned earlier.


cub says

although, it could be made competitively viable if it predicts who a person will vote rather than triggering if a person changes their vote

that would be a better implementation overall


And the scrutineer keeps the original idea. Or is that too rehash-y


The way I see it is that this proposal would be best for the Scrutineer and the Diabolist. While their purposes are similar, they are distinct enough from my point of view to warrant a new addition.
about 8 years
Seriously, what else could it be ? Role Mods were like role models. One step lower than actual Moderators.
about 8 years

Golbolco says

Wait so I'm unclear on what Role Mods were actually originally intended for. I remember when they repurposed them into the anti-cheating task force like xxerox and cub said, but what was their original purpose?


That ! Anti-Cheating squad from Ex-Cheaters and banned users.
about 8 years
I still want to discuss the diabolist. Should it be kept as it is, changed to be more viable competitively, or add a separate role? I would prefer the 3rd option but I concede that it is not practical to do so.

Either way it should be renamed lol
about 8 years
Wait so I'm unclear on what Role Mods were actually originally intended for. I remember when they repurposed them into the anti-cheating task force like xxerox and cub said, but what was their original purpose?
about 8 years
But, the original plan was like i said. PLAN , but plan is just a plan untill someone goes off script and starts doing whatever they want , ignoring rules and pre- made plans.
about 8 years

cub says

ive never seen role mod called role model, i have seen moderators call them role moderators


Because the admins rined it. They started moding people from the role mods, because the mods were leaving, and role mods were the next best thing. Then they started putting others in the role mod place ruining it further.
about 8 years
>foxie
>fool

haha real funny guy ha that's good lol omg
about 8 years
ive never seen role mod called role model, i have seen moderators call them role moderators

i agree with slon your posts arent contributing anything at this point
about 8 years

xxerox says

Hunter shoots anyone. Your point makes no sence.


Stop posting
about 8 years
Hunter shoots anyone. Your point makes no sence.
about 8 years

cub says


xxerox says


cub says

lucid since you're making roles bring back the use of role moderators for their intended purpose


Role mod's purpose was to catch cheaters, and they were supposed to be ex banned users, ex cheaters with no chance to be real mods any time soon.


that has nothing to do with roles

role moderators have been repurposed for several reasons, one such repurposing is what you just mentioned and i was a part of


That was the original purpose, you fool.

Role Mod = Role Model.

Role Model that even a cheater/banned user can progress and redeem themselves, but still to show that they can't be mods . All this to show that people should not cheat or else they will never be moderators and all they can every do is to catch cheaters like them.
about 8 years
yes hunter is the proper implementation of that concept
about 8 years

xxerox says

Sounds like the Jester from Town Of Salem - Kills one person that voted him , if he gets lynched.


hunter
about 8 years
[quote=Cubotv1]I think diabolist would be better if they curse some

sl0nderman says

What if the diabolist is someone who curses someone to die if they vote a certain player, like cub mentioned earlier.

This would be better

Also Trickster should be more random / have something else


Sounds like the Jester from Town Of Salem - Kills one person that voted him , if he gets lynched.