Epicmafia

Question RE: Ethereal

over 8 years

The question posed in this thread is not necessarily one of the moderation team, the site owner lucidrains/Phillip Wang, or other moderators/admins on the moderation team of this website.

People are calling for Ethereal's head because they were recently promoted from role moderator to moderator. The people calling for Ethereal to be demodded are generally viewing and accusing Ethereal as a predator.

My question is, if you guys care so much about Ethereal being a potential predator, should you not be arguing that Ethereal should be site banned? (Personally, I don't think Ethereal should be site banned. She has done her time for being banned and is currently a very big help for the moderators and cheating investigation team, in my opinion.) Your argument seems to not want to rid the website of possible predators, but to just make sure they don't become moderators. It doesn't really make much sense to me.

And even if Ethereal is demodded, guess what? She's still going to help with Cheating cases and finding banned users... nothing is going to change (except that she won't be able to do reports). Is that really going to be a sigh of relief for all of you?

So if Ethereal is demodded, what difference is it to you people if she's still allowed to be on the website...?

EDIT:

I am in favour of demodding Ethereal to please the community fwiw (I was before I even made this thread), but if we do that I don't really get why they are even allowed to be on the site anyways. I'm seeing these arguments I just don't agree with them; potential is potential at the end of the day, and I believe Ethereal should be allowed to stay on the site

Sonrio

over 8 years

ling daddy

IAmNotABC

over 8 years

The says

It's always funny to see people who think websites are mini democratic governments, when in fact they are just businesses. You can complain all you want, but if you're not changing the minds of the higher-ups, you're just wasting your time.

I WILL NEVER STOP COMPLAINING

I WILL POST EVERY SINGLE DAY, CAPSING ALL I CAN.

Because i care about this site ;(

deletedover 8 years

Sonrio says

Tsugumi says

god i just really want arcbell physically he's so irresistable adfl;asdfjkals;fdj he's so hot i want my 50 shades of arcbell those biceps and his ability to utilize the full capabilities of python 2.7 and his python dasldfkja;ldsfj please take me

Is he over 6'2?

Have you met my handsome & tall friend ling?

BearGuru

over 8 years

Sonrio says

Tsugumi says

god i just really want arcbell physically he's so irresistable adfl;asdfjkals;fdj he's so hot i want my 50 shades of arcbell those biceps and his ability to utilize the full capabilities of python 2.7 and his python dasldfkja;ldsfj please take me

Is he over 6'2?

He's a perfect 5'7

Corruption

over 8 years

BearGuru says

Tsugumi says

god i just really want arcbell physically he's so irresistable adfl;asdfjkals;fdj he's so hot i want my 50 shades of arcbell those biceps and his ability to utilize the full capabilities of python 2.7 and his python dasldfkja;ldsfj please take me

his arms are as thick as my wrist, and my wrist is reallly thin

Thin body parts are quite common around here. Arms, Wrists, Spines...

Bumpers

over 8 years

Himiko says

Honestly, I think Cody is trying to handle this as respectfully as possible, and I commend that, however I feel like there's huge questions that haven't been addressed.

Other than a few no one is deliberately trying to blast Cody as a person. If anything the lack of knowledge should equally be blamed as a moderation effort too.

There have been many incidents with Petri in the past, the paedophile discussion is the easiest to jump onto however. To be honest it should never have happened. Thanks for the rational post.

Sonrio

over 8 years

Tsugumi says

god i just really want arcbell physically he's so irresistable adfl;asdfjkals;fdj he's so hot i want my 50 shades of arcbell those biceps and his ability to utilize the full capabilities of python 2.7 and his python dasldfkja;ldsfj please take me

Is he over 6'2?

The

over 8 years

It's always funny to see people who think websites are mini democratic governments, when in fact they are just businesses. You can complain all you want, but if you're not changing the minds of the higher-ups, you're just wasting your time.

BearGuru

over 8 years

Tsugumi says

god i just really want arcbell physically he's so irresistable adfl;asdfjkals;fdj he's so hot i want my 50 shades of arcbell those biceps and his ability to utilize the full capabilities of python 2.7 and his python dasldfkja;ldsfj please take me

his arms are as thick as my wrist, and my wrist is reallly thin

IAmNotABC

over 8 years

I can say that Arcbell has my password for years, because i indeed give it to him.

deletedover 8 years

god i just really want arcbell physically he's so irresistable adfl;asdfjkals;fdj he's so hot i want my 50 shades of arcbell those biceps and his ability to utilize the full capabilities of python 2.7 and his python dasldfkja;ldsfj please take me

leo

over 8 years

Vancyon says

leo says

Vancyon says

Arcbell doesn't need mod powers to seriously f---k things up on this site if he wants to.

I doubt they make a difference at all.

I'm not entirely caught up on the Arcbell situation, so I'm not going to accuse him of smth that I don't know about. Anyway:

Did you not know Petri was getting modded, or did you not know Petri was a pedophile?

Was aware Sammie would likely be modded, wasn't aware of those logs. I knew she had posted loli in the post, but that was the extent of it.

I'm on my way out so I didn't particularly care one way or the other so I gave the go ahead.

I see. Thank you for the explanation. I don't think admins telling the mods who they're thinking of promoting is a bad idea, especially when it could have prevented this in the first place.

Corruption

over 8 years

I didn't need mod powers to get the site shut down. I guess that's a reason to mod me :D

Hibiki

over 8 years

so like. yeah. demod arcbell lol

deletedover 8 years

leo says

Vancyon says

Arcbell doesn't need mod powers to seriously f---k things up on this site if he wants to.

I doubt they make a difference at all.

I'm not entirely caught up on the Arcbell situation, so I'm not going to accuse him of smth that I don't know about. Anyway:

Did you not know Petri was getting modded, or did you not know Petri was a pedophile?

Was aware Sammie would likely be modded, wasn't aware of those logs. I knew she had posted loli in the post, but that was the extent of it.

I'm on my way out so I didn't particularly care one way or the other so I gave the go ahead.

BearGuru

over 8 years

MAWED LEAKZ

IAmNotABC

over 8 years

WHERE THEY WERE WAS THE BEST POSSIBLE PLACE : THE ROLE MOD TEAM.

NOT A MOD, NOT A REGULA USER. YES, IT IS A PLACE IN BETWEEN FOR THOSE THAT ARE OUTCATS, BUT IN A GOOD, POSITIVE WAY. THEY STILL HAVE SOME POWER. BUT THEIR FUTURE AS REAL MODERATORS IS UNCERTAIN.

ROLE MOD WERE MADE JUST FOR THOSE USERS TO BEGIN WITH. USERS THAT REDEEMED THEMSELVES, BUT WILL NEVER BE MODERATORS, AND THOSE THAT ACTUALLY ARE GOOD AT CATCHING CHEATERS!

Kerry

over 8 years

Hibiki says

[10/02/2016 02:23:00 AM] Arcbell: i always kept my word to u
[10/02/2016 02:23:04 AM] Arcbell: ur pw is safe
[10/02/2016 02:23:13 AM] Connor: yeah i figured as much
[10/02/2016 02:23:14 AM] Connor: except
[10/02/2016 02:23:16 AM] Arcbell: so basically i was catfished
[10/02/2016 02:23:19 AM] Connor: theres talk of "all users passwords"
[10/02/2016 02:23:20 AM] Arcbell: a Long Con
[10/02/2016 02:23:24 AM | Edited 02:23:16 AM] Connor: literally All Users
[10/02/2016 02:23:30 AM] Arcbell: yeah
[10/02/2016 02:23:31 AM] Arcbell: i mean
[10/02/2016 02:23:42 AM] Arcbell: i specifically avoided it scraping yours
[10/02/2016 02:23:46 AM] Arcbell: and a few other ppl
[10/02/2016 02:23:51 AM] Connor: o nice
[10/02/2016 02:23:53 AM] Connor: what about kerry
[10/02/2016 02:23:57 AM] Arcbell: yeah not her eithyer
[10/02/2016 02:24:00 AM] Arcbell: like its not ALL PLAYERS
[10/02/2016 02:24:05 AM] Arcbell: its just a lot of players
[10/02/2016 02:24:13 AM] Arcbell: it has top do with when people logged on
[10/02/2016 02:24:17 AM] Arcbell: like at certain intervals
[10/02/2016 02:24:19 AM] Arcbell: anyone who logs on
[10/02/2016 02:24:21 AM] Arcbell: i got their pw
[10/02/2016 02:24:28 AM] Arcbell: but i didnt leave this running obv
[10/02/2016 02:24:40 AM] Connor: i..
[10/02/2016 02:24:41 AM] Connor: dont think thats ethical at all
[10/02/2016 02:24:48 AM] Arcbell: it most certainly is not

Hibiki

over 8 years

Hibiki says

[10/02/2016 02:23:00 AM] Arcbell: i always kept my word to u
[10/02/2016 02:23:04 AM] Arcbell: ur pw is safe
[10/02/2016 02:23:13 AM] Connor: yeah i figured as much
[10/02/2016 02:23:14 AM] Connor: except
[10/02/2016 02:23:16 AM] Arcbell: so basically i was catfished
[10/02/2016 02:23:19 AM] Connor: theres talk of "all users passwords"
[10/02/2016 02:23:20 AM] Arcbell: a Long Con
[10/02/2016 02:23:24 AM | Edited 02:23:16 AM] Connor: literally All Users
[10/02/2016 02:23:30 AM] Arcbell: yeah
[10/02/2016 02:23:31 AM] Arcbell: i mean
[10/02/2016 02:23:42 AM] Arcbell: i specifically avoided it scraping yours
[10/02/2016 02:23:46 AM] Arcbell: and a few other ppl
[10/02/2016 02:23:51 AM] Connor: o nice
[10/02/2016 02:23:53 AM] Connor: what about kerry
[10/02/2016 02:23:57 AM] Arcbell: yeah not her eithyer
[10/02/2016 02:24:00 AM] Arcbell: like its not ALL PLAYERS
[10/02/2016 02:24:05 AM] Arcbell: its just a lot of players
[10/02/2016 02:24:13 AM] Arcbell: it has top do with when people logged on
[10/02/2016 02:24:17 AM] Arcbell: like at certain intervals
[10/02/2016 02:24:19 AM] Arcbell: anyone who logs on
[10/02/2016 02:24:21 AM] Arcbell: i got their pw
[10/02/2016 02:24:28 AM] Arcbell: but i didnt leave this running obv
[10/02/2016 02:24:40 AM] Connor: i..
[10/02/2016 02:24:41 AM] Connor: dont think thats ethical at all
[10/02/2016 02:24:48 AM] Arcbell: it most certainly is not

ling

over 8 years

annabelle says

Vancyon says

Arcbell doesn't need mod powers to seriously f---k things up on this site if he wants to.

I doubt they make a difference at all.

is this how you justify it? because he can already do it, that's not a defense at all.

Are you rewarding him or trying to bribe him to good behaviour, this isnt some 10 year old kid you're trying to make good with candy

This is some childish mid 20 year old man and these methods don't work

Hibiki

over 8 years

[10/02/2016 02:25:47 AM] Connor: well thanks for whitelisting me
[10/02/2016 02:25:56 AM] Arcbell: i haven't done this in a while
[10/02/2016 02:25:58 AM] Arcbell: i was in love ok
[10/02/2016 02:26:02 AM] Arcbell: thats my excuse
[10/02/2016 02:26:16 AM] Connor: remember i dont actually know what happened
[10/02/2016 02:26:22 AM] Connor: i only know that theres a password scare
[10/02/2016 02:26:43 AM] Arcbell: i just clarified it to aj
[10/02/2016 02:26:44 AM] Connor: and its ok man
[10/02/2016 02:26:56 AM] Connor: love makes a lot of people do dumb stuff
[10/02/2016 02:27:02 AM] Arcbell: yes ];

deletedover 8 years

Honestly, I think Cody is trying to handle this as respectfully as possible, and I commend that, however I feel like there's huge questions that haven't been addressed.

First being, are they a pedophile? That's the most important question in determining the course of action to take. If they are not, there's no need to demod them. End of story.

However, that doesn't seem like the case. It feels like a lot of people have accepted the answer as yes from the way they're talking about it. Now the question has become, should someone be a mod if they were previously a pedophile but shown to have changed?

And I'm not sure how to answer that. I, personally, don't know anyone really, so I can't really say whether my opinion is valid or not. But, saying someone is reformed is based on your own personal experience with them, right? That worries me, considering I doubt if she was a threat she'd show it to her fellow mods or friends.

I just think it's better safe than sorry. By demodding her, you avoid any possible threats and you gain trust back into the community. If you decide to not, people will always be apprehensive, and this issue will likely not disappear.

Anyway, that's just the way I see it. I'm done here for now.

I wouldn't put so much pressure onto the mods, because this is a pretty complicated issue to deal with.

deletedover 8 years

Vancyon says

moon says

Vancyon says

Arcbell doesn't need mod powers to seriously f---k things up on this site if he wants to.

I doubt they make a difference at all.

so that's a reason to mod him is to ensure he doesn't need to hack anyone?

His very existence on the site is a security threat, is what I'm saying. He's too good at coding/hacking for, perhaps, his own good.

This thread is now about euthanization

deletedover 8 years

personally i just want arcbell to take my body and ravage it in the public restroom of a broken down walmart in childress, texas.

i want him to wrap me in bacon and rotisserie chickens straight from the deli and just really go at me, slapping me and calling me names and treating me like human garbage and his own personal dumpster and the works

that's all i want from arcbell

Hibiki

over 8 years

[10/02/2016 02:23:00 AM] Arcbell: i always kept my word to u
[10/02/2016 02:23:04 AM] Arcbell: ur pw is safe
[10/02/2016 02:23:13 AM] Connor: yeah i figured as much
[10/02/2016 02:23:14 AM] Connor: except
[10/02/2016 02:23:16 AM] Arcbell: so basically i was catfished
[10/02/2016 02:23:19 AM] Connor: theres talk of "all users passwords"
[10/02/2016 02:23:20 AM] Arcbell: a Long Con
[10/02/2016 02:23:24 AM | Edited 02:23:16 AM] Connor: literally All Users
[10/02/2016 02:23:30 AM] Arcbell: yeah
[10/02/2016 02:23:31 AM] Arcbell: i mean
[10/02/2016 02:23:42 AM] Arcbell: i specifically avoided it scraping yours
[10/02/2016 02:23:46 AM] Arcbell: and a few other ppl
[10/02/2016 02:23:51 AM] Connor: o nice
[10/02/2016 02:23:53 AM] Connor: what about kerry
[10/02/2016 02:23:57 AM] Arcbell: yeah not her eithyer
[10/02/2016 02:24:00 AM] Arcbell: like its not ALL PLAYERS
[10/02/2016 02:24:05 AM] Arcbell: its just a lot of players
[10/02/2016 02:24:13 AM] Arcbell: it has top do with when people logged on
[10/02/2016 02:24:17 AM] Arcbell: like at certain intervals
[10/02/2016 02:24:19 AM] Arcbell: anyone who logs on
[10/02/2016 02:24:21 AM] Arcbell: i got their pw
[10/02/2016 02:24:28 AM] Arcbell: but i didnt leave this running obv
[10/02/2016 02:24:40 AM] Connor: i..
[10/02/2016 02:24:41 AM] Connor: dont think thats ethical at all
[10/02/2016 02:24:48 AM] Arcbell: it most certainly is not