Epicmafia

Question RE: Ethereal

over 8 years

The question posed in this thread is not necessarily one of the moderation team, the site owner lucidrains/Phillip Wang, or other moderators/admins on the moderation team of this website.

People are calling for Ethereal's head because they were recently promoted from role moderator to moderator. The people calling for Ethereal to be demodded are generally viewing and accusing Ethereal as a predator.

My question is, if you guys care so much about Ethereal being a potential predator, should you not be arguing that Ethereal should be site banned? (Personally, I don't think Ethereal should be site banned. She has done her time for being banned and is currently a very big help for the moderators and cheating investigation team, in my opinion.) Your argument seems to not want to rid the website of possible predators, but to just make sure they don't become moderators. It doesn't really make much sense to me.

And even if Ethereal is demodded, guess what? She's still going to help with Cheating cases and finding banned users... nothing is going to change (except that she won't be able to do reports). Is that really going to be a sigh of relief for all of you?

So if Ethereal is demodded, what difference is it to you people if she's still allowed to be on the website...?

EDIT:

I am in favour of demodding Ethereal to please the community fwiw (I was before I even made this thread), but if we do that I don't really get why they are even allowed to be on the site anyways. I'm seeing these arguments I just don't agree with them; potential is potential at the end of the day, and I believe Ethereal should be allowed to stay on the site

deletedover 8 years

hey the, let's make a bet, the bet is that arcbell is demodded within two weeks after numerous complaints, reward is 20 tokens

since our complaints are so worthless

BearGuru

over 8 years

DON'T FEAR THE XXER

IAmNotABC

over 8 years

I COMPALIN BECAUSE ONCE YOU LET THOSE BEASTS LEAD THIS SITE, PEOPLE REPORT ME AND I GET VIOLATIONS FOR NOTHING.

BearGuru

over 8 years

Cody is our first conservative admin

Corruption

over 8 years

I for one look forward to the glorious dictatorship of Chairman xxerox.

Hibiki

over 8 years

ling says

Cody and solacw now that ive pmed you proof and theres been a lot of proof that arcbell has been a shitttee for the past few months what are you gonna do about

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

its disappointing to me that these ppl who were basically my co-workers and comrades suddenly decided my opinion meant nothing, more than anything

deletedover 8 years

Lucid once joined a game I was in. I think I have what it takes to appeal.

deletedover 8 years

ling says

Cody and solacw now that ive pmed you proof and theres been a lot of proof that arcbell has been a shitttee for the past few months what are you gonna do about

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they're going to "Talk to him"

Solace

over 8 years

ling says

Cody and solacw now that ive pmed you proof and theres been a lot of proof that arcbell has been a shitttee for the past few months what are you gonna do about

I didn't get a pm

deletedover 8 years

The says

EM is a business. If the admins/Lucid are holding their positions, nothing is going to change no matter how much you want it to.

i definitely think that cody is driven primarily by financial considerations in his epicmafia decisionmaking being the highly paid employee he is, he's got to protect that paycheck

leo

over 8 years

The says

leo says

The, that's not a very good metaphor. Because business owners would have a problem hiring pedophiles and hackers, but EM apparently doesn't.

Well, it apparently doesn't if they find out about the former after the fact, anyway.

Ah, so there's the problem.

That wasn't a metaphor. EM is a business. If the admins/Lucid are holding their positions, nothing is going to change no matter how much you want it to.

Lucid isn't even here most of the time... this is a horrible place of business, the admins don't even get paid!

Srsly take your ego down a couple of notches.

IAmNotABC

over 8 years

I am appealing to LUCID.

Untill Lucid makes me head admin, and all is fking FIXED

IAmNotABC

over 8 years

No, really, dont kick it ok? Or i will come and kick you instead.

ling

over 8 years

Cody and solacw now that ive pmed you proof and theres been a lot of proof that arcbell has been a shitttee for the past few months what are you gonna do about

BearGuru

over 8 years

My favorite precedent was John Adams

The

over 8 years

leo says

The, that's not a very good metaphor. Because business owners would have a problem hiring pedophiles and hackers, but EM apparently doesn't.

Well, it apparently doesn't if they find out about the former after the fact, anyway.

Ah, so there's the problem.

That wasn't a metaphor. EM is a business. If the admins/Lucid are holding their positions, nothing is going to change no matter how much you want it to.

deletedover 8 years

all of these people right here, right now, are not trying to change cody's mind by complaining and directly appealing to cody to consider evidence against arcbell and calling for him to demod him

IAmNotABC

over 8 years

harodihg says

Every time an EM user types the word 'precedent' I kick my neighbors cat

PRECEDENT!

deletedover 8 years

Every time an EM user types the word 'precedent' I kick my neighbors cat

deletedover 8 years

bumpers i don't know about you but when i make a complaint it is never with the goal in mind of trying to get minds to change

Bumpers

over 8 years

The says

It's always funny to see people who think websites are mini democratic governments, when in fact they are just businesses. You can complain all you want, but if you're not changing the minds of the higher-ups, you're just wasting your time.

???

deletedover 8 years

Corruption says

I didn't need mod powers to get the site shut down. I guess that's a reason to mod me :D

I mean you'd be better than anyone else on the team so why not

leo

over 8 years

The, that's not a very good metaphor. Because business owners would have a problem hiring pedophiles and hackers, but EM apparently doesn't.

Well, it apparently doesn't if they find out about the former after the fact, anyway.

deletedover 8 years

The says

You can complain all you want, but if you're not changing the minds of the higher-ups, you're just wasting your time.

do you know what the purpose of these complaints are? this suggests you failed to make the connection despite your condescending attitude rather than anyone who's posted

The

over 8 years

Lucid should abolish passwords and just use logins through email.