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This website is far past the point where having ranked and unranked games in main lobby makes sense.

Both sandbox and main lobby suffer from this weird choice. Unranked games should go in sandbox, which will boost the ever slowing population of 12 person closed setups, and ranked games should go in main lobby.

Without the influx of unranked games being made, competitive games will not be second paged so fast, and thus fill more often, allowing more than 2 setups to be played each round.

Remove unranked games from main lobby
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Yes
58
No
Bebop
almost 8 years
holy ｆｕｃｋ please can i comment ban kylo his edge is actually giving me a headache
deletedalmost 8 years

Jimbei says


Well, I've got to hand it to you fnoof, this is a pretty good way to f*ck over 2016 at the very last moment to get the last laugh, if you really want a gold medal I'll draw you one


i'm not acting unilaterally nor have i said anything even remotely conclusive. this isn't the end of days, it's a discussion.
sl0nderman
almost 8 years

Kylo says


sl0nderman says

This is why you add game mode to every thread.


Surprise: This is my thread.


Why is this even up for discussion, then? There's obviously no merit to the suggestion if that's the case.
deletedalmost 8 years

Bebop says

removing the unranked barrier means noobs will rack up notes/violations much easier because they'll be forced to play red hearts or turned off from the site altogether by sandbox's wild ride


if you're worried about new people being turned off from this site you shouldn't even be worried about this move, and be worried about plenty of other things that would need to change
deletedalmost 8 years

fnoof says

if this is going to turn into a s­hitflinging contest there's really no reason to continue here.


maybe this is an example of main and sandbox not getting along

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fnoof says

if this is going to turn into a s­hitflinging contest there's really no reason to continue here.


I've never been anything but shitflinging, you really shouldn't be surprised, you'll be disappointed every time.
Ben
almost 8 years
it really depends on the setup.

an unranked fancy pants or something is going to be played mostly seriosuly in main.

party or simular setups are never going to be played seriously because its just a fun chill setup.
deletedalmost 8 years

sl0nderman says

This is why you add game mode to every thread.


Surprise: This is my thread.
deletedalmost 8 years
This is a terrible idea, as others have said. Do not push unranked games into Sandbox. The personalities of players in each are vastly different. Meshing them together would not work and would most likely cause many people to leave the site.

If anything, bring back training and competitive lobby like back in the day. That way new players have a place to go to actually LEARN in a LEARNING environment while experienced players can play with other experienced players. New players will never learn through the methods of sandbox. If you are seriously considering this idea, it should be reconsidered.
deletedalmost 8 years

Bebop says


Kylo says


Bebop says


Kylo says

In the original single lobby, all of the unranked players I would like to disappear entirely played together.


what the everloving fúck does that have to do with what i said being "inherently and fundimentally wrong"????


Your argument is inherently fallacious because all unranked players were together initially and the hypothesis you proposed was not an issue.

You're a stupid squawking Neanderthal, probably because you are a sandbox player.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯


what difference does it make that they were all together once? they aren't anymore and we live in the present. the amount of pseudo-contempt and general edge you're throwing around is hilariously cringy.


If you understood anything about anything, you'd understand that empirical evidence of your hypothesis being incorrect means that you are actually wrong, and that you can't refuse to change anything based on fears arising from incorrect hypotheses proposed by the unintelligent that have already been proven empirically false.

Or, in terms you can understand: Idiot.
sl0nderman
almost 8 years
This is why you add game mode to every thread.
deletedalmost 8 years

sl0nderman says

Here's what it really comes down to: game attitude. Even in unranked games, main is more likely to play the game in a serious fashion, which is the best place for new players to learn the "normal" game. Sandbox is so much more lax (which may be for the worse, but that's not what we are talking about here), and it's more of a place to have fun with the game than to learn the intricacies of playing it.


No. Main lobby is not likely to play the game in a serious fashion unranked. You're wrong. Wrong. Bad. Stupid. Incorrect. The game cannot be played seriously with constant suicides, IRL or otherwise, which is all that ever occurs in main lobby unranked games.
deletedalmost 8 years
Lets keep main lobby the main page

remove unranked games

and lift restrictions of playstyle to newer players

red heart games will just become the new unranked, and anyone trying to play setups will be immensely frustrated as any new user won't be forced to play unranked to learn the basic functions of the game

Well, I've got to hand it to you fnoof, this is a pretty good way to f*ck over 2016 at the very last moment to get the last laugh, if you really want a gold medal I'll draw you one
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BAFFLING
deletedalmost 8 years
if this is going to turn into a s­hitflinging contest there's really no reason to continue here.
SirAmelio
almost 8 years
im neutral on the issue but whatever decision is made should be consulted to the community of both lobbies and see what the people think.
Bebop
almost 8 years

Kylo says


Bebop says


Kylo says

In the original single lobby, all of the unranked players I would like to disappear entirely played together.


what the everloving fúck does that have to do with what i said being "inherently and fundimentally wrong"????


Your argument is inherently fallacious because all unranked players were together initially and the hypothesis you proposed was not an issue.

You're a stupid squawking Neanderthal, probably because you are a sandbox player.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯


what difference does it make that they were all together once? they aren't anymore and we live in the present. the amount of pseudo-contempt and general edge you're throwing around is hilariously cringy.
sl0nderman
almost 8 years
Here's what it really comes down to: game attitude. Even in unranked games, main is more likely to play the game in a serious fashion, which is the best place for new players to learn the "normal" game. Sandbox is so much more lax (which may be for the worse, but that's not what we are talking about here), and it's more of a place to have fun with the game than to learn the intricacies of playing it.
deletedalmost 8 years

Bebop says


Kylo says

In the original single lobby, all of the unranked players I would like to disappear entirely played together.


what the everloving fúck does that have to do with what i said being "inherently and fundimentally wrong"????


Your argument is inherently fallacious because all unranked players were together initially and the hypothesis you proposed was not an issue.

You're a stupid squawking Neanderthal, probably because you are a sandbox player.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Golbolco
almost 8 years

fnoof says


Golbolco says

Speaking as a primarily Sandbox player: I think the Sandbox community needs a renaissance, but not like this (though I'm not opposed at all to new players.) I also think it's not cool to kick all the potential new players out of the main lobby, I think it's better to revive the Competitive lobby and have ranked play primarily in there.


careful with your syntax here. are you opting for separate lobbies for red hearts and gold hearts? they really should be in the same lobby, and if we get rid of the unranked barrier to ranked games then you won't really have to be worrying about people oiling their training wheels in sandbox.


What was the problem when competitive and training were split? People could learn the game without being harangued by the pros in ranked games during then, and we didn't have a problem with any kind of split as far as I'm aware.
Bebop
almost 8 years

fnoof says


Bebop says

removing the unranked barrier means noobs will rack up notes/violations much easier because they'll be forced to play red hearts or turned off from the site altogether by sandbox's wild ride


possible solution would be to just exercise more mercy in terms of moderation on account of the change.


i think that opens up more gateway for abuse of leniency
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Bebop says

removing the unranked barrier means noobs will rack up notes/violations much easier because they'll be forced to play red hearts or turned off from the site altogether by sandbox's wild ride


possible solution would be to just exercise more mercy in terms of moderation on account of the change.
Bebop
almost 8 years

Kylo says

In the original single lobby, all of the unranked players I would like to disappear entirely played together.


what the everloving fúck does that have to do with what i said being "inherently and fundimentally wrong"????
deletedalmost 8 years

Rutab says


sl0nderman says

You hate all who play unranked mafia? Boy, have I got some bad news for you about how the game started.


There isn't a blatantly obvious way to prove his elitism with no gratification in unranked games ;)


Even the cow gets it.
Rutab
almost 8 years

sl0nderman says

You hate all who play unranked mafia? Boy, have I got some bad news for you about how the game started.


There isn't a blatantly obvious way to prove his elitism with no gratification in unranked games ;)