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Reporting Period

deletedover 8 years

Why is it that users can file a report up to seven days after the offense has taken place?

It doesn't make sense to me that the time period is that long. It should be reduced to 48 hours at the most.

The only thing that seven days allows someone is the chance to dig into the game records and see if they can get them banned.

Shorter reporting periods will allow users enough time to report offenses but also help to reduce report spam when people find each and every violation a person has committed in the last week.

The reason, though, that we can't just say "Only people in this game can report for violations" is because if there was a game full of friends, they can't break rules and get away with it.

By reducing the time to 48 hours or less, it leaves just enough time to report the violations and also keep out the report trolls who just want to try to get people banned and overuse the system.

Should it change to what OP is saying?
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Yes
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No (why)
over 8 years
Scenario:

Player A is angry at Player B.

Player A decides to look through Player B's games to find any evidence against them which warrants a violation.

What this rule does is extinguish spiteful antics such as this.

Whilst I understand your concern, Kerry, in the case of runners - runners' games get investigated anyway, and as such, this type of behaviour can be appraised by a moderator rather than someone doing it out of spite. Further to the point, it is near enough impossible to fill a ranked game with only your friends, and even in such cases where a table is full of friends, it is far less likely that they are collectively sacrificing the game at the cost of one person in particular, so it therefore becomes an even playing field.

I apologise if I'm not being coherent enough, but I don't really want to sit here all day arguing about it and discuss it on Skype simultaneously.
over 8 years
*start of round*

"i don't care that a game was thrown which unfairly affected my round score because i have no intention of winning and i just wanna play mafia"

*end of round*
*behind 2000 points in 2nd place by ~40 points*

"i care about my round score, and i'd have a fair footing if that game that was thrown was refunded, but i can't do anything about it because it was more than 2 days ago"
over 8 years

Vancyon says


Kerry says

if you're aware someone has broken a rule as a moderator and don't opt to punish that behavior you're just encouraging people to get away with breaking rules in ranked games, most likely with friends


At the risk of encouraging people to go through the games of people they hate and get them banned?

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.


don't break the rules in the first place???
deletedover 8 years

Kerry says

if you're aware someone has broken a rule as a moderator and don't opt to punish that behavior you're just encouraging people to get away with breaking rules in ranked games, most likely with friends


At the risk of encouraging people to go through the games of people they hate and get them banned?

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

However, I think the chance of people using this as a precedent to just go through people's games and get them banned is much higher.
over 8 years
if you're aware someone has broken a rule as a moderator and don't opt to punish that behavior you're just encouraging people to get away with breaking rules in ranked games, most likely with friends
over 8 years
All this change will do is stop people from filing bogus reports about things they actually dont care about at the time, which is a good thing IMO
deletedover 8 years
I think the rules are fine the way they are, but that user was obviously just going through dozens of old games to get harod banned, so I wasn't going to encourage that behaviour at the risk of being overturned. The OT was completely understandable and I support a 7 day statute of limitations.
over 8 years
if you want to break rules with your friends, don't do it in ranked games. :////
over 8 years

Kerry says

scenario:

in your first couple of games someone broke the rules but you didn't care because you weren't initially running then

can you go back and report them if you're in a position to win if you get a refund if it's been over 2 days rutab?


Its just pathetic to dig through games to find refunds in general nor was the report system made for that purpose. If you feel like someone broke a rule, just report them directly. It takes less than a minute if you really care.
over 8 years

Kerry says

scenario:

in your first couple of games someone broke the rules but you didn't care because you weren't initially running then

can you go back and report them if you're in a position to win if you get a refund if it's been over 2 days rutab?


I can't imagine who would do that.
over 8 years
oh well, that went faster than expected

the funny thing is I've posted that pic before so I dont really mind lmao
over 8 years
scenario:

in your first couple of games someone broke the rules but you didn't care because you weren't initially running then

can you go back and report them if you're in a position to win if you get a refund if it's been over 2 days rutab?
deletedover 8 years

Edark says

also vancyon do I need to file a report or can you slap him with a OPI vio


He's obviously a banned user so I just banned him.
over 8 years
also vancyon do I need to file a report or can you slap him with a OPI vio
deletedover 8 years
thnx bro
over 8 years
It took you 14 seconds to find my picture, thats quite impressive
over 8 years
i thought yeung was bigpock but turns out hes abc
over 8 years

Yeung says

personally when i report ppl for breaking rules that werent in my game, i aint spite/grudge reporting. im just tryna purge the site of all the notorious rule breakers


If you sincerely spend your time reading random games to find rulebreakers you should problably think about what choices you made in your life that got you to this point.
deletedover 8 years
personally when i report ppl for breaking rules that werent in my game, i aint spite/grudge reporting. im just tryna purge the site of all the notorious rule breakers
over 8 years

Yeung says

" people come here to have fun" lol. not everyone comes here to have fun, speak for urself


lmao you freaking nerd
over 8 years

roadman says

Ultimately, it's like this.

The people who are present on the table are essentially trading their time for enjoyment. Reports occur when they feel like they are not getting a fair trade, and that somebody in particular has caused them to feel as such.

In this respect, if somebody at the table commits a GRS and nobody reports it, why should somebody external of the situation feel that it is within their power to determine whether or not the offence was worthy of a violation? Yes, they might have broken a rule, and yes rules should be enforced, but ultimately this is a mafia website and people come here to have fun. If people are still able to have fun, and no one is offended or upset, or feel like their time has been disregarded, then sometimes it's best to just let bygones-be-bygones and get on with your day.




the thing is, in a competitive scene, every game loosely impacts the whole round itself. for example, we just reset this round because some players were given an unfair advantage

GRSing in this game may not have impacted too heavily anyone else in the round, but if another runner was to get an advantage by any of the town losing there, there is somebody elses time/enjoyment being impacted because they wanted to win a trophy.

anyways, to your later point on why somebody externally should be able to report the situation is because people just want things to be fair. people go grudging around on reports because they feel something was unfair usually. shortening this time length to 48 hours is going to even more people off, because thats a reasonably short time period where people will actually find the games but now be unable to report

i really don't see what is wrong with leaving the time period at 7 days. a users enjoyment is going to be impacted negatively by finding out other users are getting away with vios in conclusion

edit: im going to bypass, is pi$$ seriously censored?? lol
deletedover 8 years
yes they will, they will rotate with their less try hard alt
over 8 years
If people are looking to point farm, they're normally looking to do it in unison. You won't have people GRSing from games to ruin their accounts at the cost of amending their friends' pie charts. You're coming up with a hypothetical situation that has no sincere validity.
over 8 years
Heaven forbid!
deletedover 8 years
ppl will start having illegitimate main lobby stats which isn't fair